It is time for a Christian council on UAPs/UFOs - like our Lord told Isaiah, let us reason together...
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Yes, it is Unsealed, the official podcast of Wings of the Eagle. I am Christopher Mantei, your host and your friend. And I'd like to hear from you if you're watching or listening right now. Even if it's not right now, if it's in the future, you can tell me you were there too. Just go ahead and leave a comment and say hi. Hey, there's our Sister Bond servant checking in. What's up? If you're new, let me know where you're from, where you're watching from. Any questions, comments, concerns, and whatever else, perfectly welcome. Just go ahead and type it into wherever you're watching, whether that be YouTube or Facebook or X or Instagram. or even the end time church app yes end time dot app will get you to your app store directly and uh give you access to the free christian application that we have invented for you for the church by the church what get out of town vitor what is happening brother blessings to you man Long time. Awesome. Wow. Praise the Lord. Yeah. Vitor is a brother in Portugal. Well, he's from Portugal. I assume he's still living there. uh let me know um if you are that's awesome fantastic to see you man fantastic um thank you for saying so anyway guys real quick before we get going as always please share this video please just hit the share button on whatever you're watching it on and uh that would be a huge help um it'll just get more people involved and more eyeballs on it, right? And that's what we're all about here. And obviously, we're about the gospel. uh as christians that's what we do um wings of the eagle is um kind of uh we're refocusing a little bit more sharply in this uh new year new now for four months uh we're refocusing on basically the areas of we're always going to want to connect with the church throughout the world we're always going to want to be with Israel and preach the gospel to Jews and Muslims. But specifically now we're going to drill down on eschatology, which is nothing new. That just means proper end times understanding from the scriptures, not from our own minds. Israel, again, not a change at all. want to support and staying with them every way we can. Um, and just teach properly again about them and about God's plan with them and the unseen realm. Um, because those three elements, uh, I agree and pastor Jake McCandless and others who have spoken to the past few months agree, uh, that these are the three main deficiencies or, um, uh, things that the church is unaware of, unprepared for, untaught on, uneducated in, and we need to do that ASAP, right? Okay, so under that last heading of the unseen realm, is obviously things we can't see on our normal fleshly day-to-day life. That means you should know, if you're a Christian, you should readily accept and understand that there is a... a realm, a world, a part of this world, however you want to look at it. Um, that is very real, but is unseen. You cannot see with your fleshly eyeballs, but there it is many, many examples in the scripture, obviously. And so we can't run from that, even if it confuses us. And, uh, because at some point here, it's going to break through and, um, We need to be ready to at least discuss it because we're not. And that's why I want to bring this topic up for you guys today, which is I believe it is time. I've been in prayer for a while about it and built some infrastructure, a little, to facilitate discussion among all denominations of Christians, all denominations. it's time for a Christian council on UAPs or UFOs. A council in a, I'm thinking of a very old school literal sense of like a giant table, council of Nicaea, right? Something like that, where representatives or whatever from all the major Christian denominations would get together and Like the Lord told Isaiah, come let us reason together. Let's reason this out. Let's talk about this. Because God is speaking on this. And it's really the Christian world, the evangelical, quote unquote, Christian world that loves the Bible and loves hanging out with each other, but really doesn't interact with any other parts of the world. It's like a whole separate universe from, let's say, the UFO world. And obviously, different religious beliefs, we can process that. well, you're a Muslim, you're a Hindu, I'm a Christian, okay, so we'll see what we can, maybe we can facilitate conversation, but this is not that. the leading of the Lord on this is we are not prepared. None of us are. We're not ready for what's coming as far as the unseen realm. And that doesn't necessarily mean demons, evil, fallen angels only. It could mean that. I mean, they're there. But so are other things. Possibly God's angels and Different aspects of the creation that we have not seen yet. It's possible we're going to be seeing these things. And maybe you can call them entities or forms of life. Or maybe they're just types of transportation or technology or whatever. Right? So as we and we've this is not new. It's not I'm not prophesying about it. It's happening now. It's been happening for years. It's coming more to the forefront now and it's becoming more in our face. And at a certain point, it's just going to blow up. OK, I mean, the subject is just going to blow up in the church's face. And who's going to be ready for it? Okay, so that's the thought behind this council. Ideally, again, not to downgrade, denigrate anybody. You're an individual Christian. Obviously, we want to talk to you too. You can look at the bottom of the screen right now if you're watching. Have you ever had an experience or a UFO or an unexplainable thing that you would fall into the supernatural or unseen realm? Go to unsealedpodcast.com, and there's a form at the bottom. You can tell me about your experience. I'm not going to make fun of you. I'm not going to blab to the world, but you can tell a pastor about it, and you can feel secure, okay? Anyway, a lot of folks just need that, just that first step. So yes, there's ideas. Sure, we want to have regular Zoom meetings or something like that just with regular folks. But I feel like, I mean, at some point, yes, the Church A or the Catholic Church may have a position on this officially or whatever. But at a certain point, we, the church, we're going to have to put aside our hats about, oh, well, my denomination says this or mine says that and say, forget all of that stuff. I'm accountable to the Lord myself. For me and my family, right? And something's happening where my church is not prepared. We have not talked about this. Okay, let's say, for an example, you know, something happens where, I don't know. Turns out that there is some kind of evil intent or it's an evil angel or whatever demonic thing in this UFO phenomenon. It comes out and there's just evil somehow. And we all know it's evil. Okay. What are we doing about that? For example, a lot of people like what would we do? What would the church do? We need a council. to talk these things out as the body. I don't know what else we can do. There's the reflexive, really stupid idea that's apparently happening, from what I can tell, in the government of my country, of the United States, there are conservative Christians in the Congress and in the Pentagon in the armed forces that believe, maybe they know more than I do, maybe they don't, but they believe that this UFO, UAP phenomenon is demonic. And that's a quote. I would definitely take anyone to task in the world who says it's demonic because I know for a fact it's not demonic because demons don't do that. We know what demons are. Anyways, point being, they think it's evil, okay? So by talking about it, by disclosing, we want disclosure. I want disclosure. Full, full on, right? Just like complete, it's a moral thing. It's a Christian thing. You can't have it both ways. You want the truth or you don't. And the Christian should never be afraid of the truth, ever. because Jesus is the truth. So they say it's demonic or evil, and therefore they don't want to bring it out to the public. That's the solution? To keep it a secret? How is you keeping it a secret going to prevent evil from doing its thing? I mean, that's really not... That makes no sense at all. That makes no sense logically, or spiritually and it's not biblical that's for sure don't hide behind christianity if you think that you not talking about evil spirits are going to make or whatever evil angels whatever you think you you're not talking about them is going to make them go away the name of jesus is our power doesn't matter what they try to do do you do you have faith or not right that's what I would ask do we have faith or not why are you afraid of anything My hunch is that these, however many there are, and hopefully there aren't that many, but there might be, those who are not talking about it and don't want disclosure in the... Again, this is just the United States side. I don't know about any other governments. But apparently it's true in the UK as well. But there are conservative Christians who don't want to talk about it. But maybe they don't know nothing. Maybe they're just being lied to. Maybe they don't know anything more than we do. They just heard this or that, or they've seen a video, and oh, that doesn't look right. Even classified stuff, right? Oops, I've seen that. There's a creature, or there's a flying thing in the air. That must be evil. What? Have you talked to the thing? Have you seen evil come from the craft? What are we talking about? I think it's more like they've been conditioned to say that. They've been convinced by a non-believer, by a non-Christian, most likely, to take that position. Because, look... We're talking about the national security state, at least again here. We're talking about counterintelligence officials. Okay, these guys and gals are literally paid to lie and to find out what works best in someone's psyche to get them to agree to what the government wants. That's their job. to find out what works with another human to get them to go along with what they want. So if they don't want the UAP UFO thing to come out, if they don't want disclosure, then they will tell a Christian person whatever they must, true or not, doesn't have to be true at all, but they will tell them what they need to tell them to convince them to not disclose it. And if that means telling them it's evil, then that's what they're going to tell them. Right? Think about it. For these folks, and I'm not trying to say they're all non-Christians who are in the know. I have no idea. And by the way, hello, I've got some awesome feedback here. I'll get to you in just one second. The folks who are in the security agencies, who are in the intelligence community, in the intelligence community, you know how many, just in America, what was the number? I think 18 or 14 or something like that. Nearly 20 different intelligence agencies, CIA, DIA. There's so many. NSA, on and on and on and on and on. And that's their job. To keep things secret is their thing. Protect national security. Sorry for the air quotes, but that's what they say all the time. National security will harm national security. Sources and methods will expose sources and methods. The words that mean nothing to prevent things from coming out. So anyways, yes, they will lie. They do it all the time. That's kind of their job. So anyway, what I'm saying is we will be very wise as Christians to discuss this among ourselves in a council format with leaders. Yes, representative from the Catholic Church. Yes, representative from the Orthodox, from the Lutherans, from the this and that, all the big denominations and the non-denominationals, the independent Baptists, I don't know. Just get around a table and say, okay, what's really going on here? Let's not be afraid to tell the truth, to say God is still in control, say that Jesus still rose from the dead, and yet there's this other thing here that we've never really thought about, and now we have to deal with it. because we're going to lose people to apostasy left and right. They're going to leave the faith. They're going to leave the faith. Because their church never taught on it, never thought about it, made fun of people who talked about seeing a UFO or whatever, and they're out. They're gone. They're done. Now their soul's in trouble. And maybe now your soul as their pastor or their shepherd is in trouble because you were negligent and you didn't care. to be teachable on this, or to realize that you had pride, or that you weren't listening to the Holy Spirit. I don't know. Just saying all these things are swirling around. So that's why we need a counsel. Hey, bless the Lord. Oh, cool. Hey, man. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you so much. Oh, cool. Yeah, become a YouTube member. That's an easy, super easy way to Support Wings of the Eagle. Okay, so let's get to comments here. I'll shut up. Glass is on. Bond server says, I don't think we will ever be totally ready, but we can be as informed as possible. I agree. I agree. But I'm talking about even after things happen. So it's not even like we have a prophecy of this. OK, we know this is coming. We know the Great Tribulation is coming. We know Jacob's trouble. We know the abomination of desolation. We know certain things are coming, but it's still in the future. So we can kind of sort of at least be studying that, be preparing, talking about that. But these are things like even after they happen, let's say something happens tomorrow. some big UAP revelation, and to talk about it after it happens, because we've still got a long time to go before the Lord comes back, potentially, right? So even after it's coming, as it's coming out. So prepare. I understand the initial preparation maybe is not going to be there, but as we go, we're going to need to get together. I really, I am utterly convinced. Marisol, what is up with you, my sister? On Facebook, she says, perhaps demonic as in evil. Yeah, I'm sure that's what they mean. You're talking about the folks who say that UFOs are demonic. It's the same word. They're just substituting the word. I agree with you. I agree with you. Most times, that's exactly what it is. Yep. Yep. Um, bond servant, they won't divulge the truth might be a power control thing. No doubt. I mean, that's absolutely 1000% part of it, if not all of it. Yep. And remember, in this particular topic, again, just being an American on this. I am an American. I consider myself patriotic. I kind of like it here. I mean, I love what the Lord has blessed us with and the power and influence and money and all that stuff is, why wouldn't you be, you know? I'm a fan, okay? But they've been... There has been a provable... fact of a cover-up to keep the truth out from the public since at least the mid-40s. That is a fact. It is documented. I don't know. We don't want to hear it or whatever, but it's a fact. So if that's not power or control, I don't know what it is. No, multi-generational now. Multi- administrations doesn't matter who the president is but doesn't matter what party is in control doesn't matter you know big companies come and go they rise and fall there's it's a unelected because they think we can't handle it they need to be in control this small group over these saps the special access projects and all these rules and regulations and deniabilities and all this stuff anyway it's a fact and power and control that's that's a big part of it Be toward God's control. That's right. No need to fear the truth. That's right. Hiding behind closed doors is just nonsense. Agreed. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yep, it is nonsense. Why would we be afraid of anything? This is what kills me about this whole idea that we're not going to let it come out because it's demonic and it's bad to talk about it. I mean, that's literally what the idea is. We should never let it get out because what? Because what? I'm sorry, but are you even a Christian? You're afraid of the devil? What's the matter with you? And not even the devil, right? Some underlings, apparently. Come on. And again, I'm not saying that this is a fact. I don't know. I don't know. Let's just say that it is, right? I'm just saying, what if, even if it is that, the worst case scenario is it's evil and demonic and there's ministries that I used to, you know, be a part of are saying, making videos about how it's all demonic. I mean, that's just stupid. It's too early to say that at all. But so what? Like, what difference does that make? We're still going to have to deal with it. How are we going to deal with it? You can't cast away a UFO, you know, like a demon. Can you? I've never seen that. It doesn't help that many alien contact stories are horrible and seem demonic. That's true. There is definitely an element to that. But they're not all horrible. just being honest. Sometimes, again, depends what you're reading, okay? And this is all just eyewitnesses, right? Witness accounts, this happened to me. Assuming they're telling the truth, I kind of like to assume that I believe people who experience things, even if they may not be totally correct in what they experience, something happened. I do believe that by default. um that something happened and yeah a lot of the times it's horrible and seems demonic but sometimes it's not sometimes they're just they feel great and they're taken someplace beautiful and they're told some beautiful stuff and then they're returned what's that could that still be evil yeah it could could it be good could it be god doing that it could Or maybe there's a neutral aspect to it that we don't like to think about. Neutral. Not God and not the devil. Not demonic and not God-side. Another part of creation or nature that we haven't contacted really yet or don't know about or how to access it. I don't know. But yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I mean, I'm thinking of, have you seen the movie, Contact? Communion, right? Very famous book and movie. Whitley Strieber, who has a very terrible experience. Okay, more than one. By the way, but the initial one where, yes, he was, you know, forcibly, again, according to him, he was forcibly taken and he saw these things and they experimented or they raped him, basically. It's terrible. And they didn't seem to have any feelings about it. You know, no remorse or whatever. And he's like, this sucks. But they continue to make contact, apparently, again, according to him, even to this day. And he is not afraid. Like, he knows something is happening, and he's not going to classify them as... He just doesn't know. He is of the mind that there's more to this than we're even thinking. Like, it has to do with life and death. The afterlife he's talking about. I mean, it gets really wild. Anyway, yes, I agree with you, Bondservant. That's part of the reason why. The council idea is to make a corporate church statement to settle folks. I don't think so. I don't know that. Nope. At this point, it's literally just a meeting, ongoing. Maybe there's a statement at some point, or maybe there's an ongoing series of statements as Christians generally. As Christians, we believe we should do this. This is what Christians should be doing or acting like or whatever, accepting, rejecting. I don't know. Maybe. I'm not there yet, though. I'm not at that point at all. Right now I'm just, as is common for me throughout my life or my adult life, is making a place available or facilitating communication, facilitating conversations to set the table for them to come, for all of us to come together. That's all it is right now. Marisol says, I thought the same thing. A possible a creation we know nothing about. It is possible. It is. Like, again, we read, I'm teaching through Ezekiel at End Time Church on Monday nights. You all are invited to get. be there 8 p.m. Mondays or afterwards. It's all on YouTube and on our Roku channel and our app and all that stuff. But yeah, part of that is, I just finished chapter one, and there's a lot of non-human creations that God has made that are really crazy and wacky and frankly scary. If you saw one of the cherub, one of these creatures that was under the throne of God or whatever that image is in Ezekiel 1, and these wheels within wheels, and eyeballs covering everything, and wings, and all that. If you saw that, would you be at peace? Would you be, oh, hallelujah? Or would you be screaming your head off, thinking it's evil? Think about it. On sermon, personally, I've seen a couple... couple angels and wasn't afraid did I know about this we might have to talk offline there bondservant um I'm also inclined to believe it's more of a dimensional rift considering ezekiel's vision for example well right it might be well in other words if but what does that mean I mean I'm with you but I don't know what that means really I mean, I believe that it's very possible that there are other dimensions around us. And if you believe the thinking of the theories about this, they're actually curled in a smaller space and quantum areas and all this stuff, like other things in there or whether they be life forms or something else. Can living things pass? Can they access these other dimensions and travel? through them what does that mean okay does that mean you live in the other dimensions or does that mean you're just using them to travel from one place to another those are different questions I mean different realities different facts all right anyways so I would love to get to the bottom of it uh vitor the truth sets one free that's right neglecting to disclose the truth equates to keeping people in mind shackles that's correct yes brother Mm-hmm. And what's the greatest, what does Paul say, the fear of death? I think God takes away that fear. Literally, what are you afraid of? What are we afraid of? Of dying? Being tortured? We've got that from mankind. I mean, we do that to ourself. No problem. It's been happening since Eden, right? UFOs are not going to increase that, are they? Or present some new kind of danger? Other than tricking people, maybe deceiving, and the church now becomes lost and stuff like that. That's a problem. But as far as what they can do, there's nothing. What can you do? Yes, be set free. I agree. Having said that, for the podcast audio audience, Vitor says, having said that, one could make the argument. that coming out with the truth could be more than what people can handle in their minds, so they control the narrative. That, again, yes, is probably what's happening, or that was the original thought. The documents pretty much confirm that, the documents that have come out and have been proven, that that was the thought, and it might still be the thought. Originally, the 40s and 50s, we've got to keep this under wraps. The people will freak out. I forget the exact phrases that were used, but something like societal collapse. It would blow everyone's mind to such a degree to find out what these things are that we're finding and that we're hiding that society itself would collapse. That's... at least what some of them are afraid of. And still to this day, some of them do still. Yep. Yep, man. That's what this is for. That's what a council would be doing, right? Just throwing it out there. Mokul, my brother says, Yeah, and we talked about this more than once, I'm pretty sure. Jesus travels via clouds from heavens to the earth. He does. He does. I think we did the scripture on this. Was it last Monday night? Not this week, but the week before? I think I covered some of them. Yeah. He does. And if he does, wouldn't a lower creature, one of his creation, wouldn't they at least have to do that, if not more? Wouldn't they need that? system you know what I mean if not even uh something more intricate I don't know um is there a q a tomorrow at 4 p.m that's the plan sir yes yes I'll be probably right here I don't know yep that's the plan um carrie what is happening this is my sister uh locally I totally agree thank you and I'm here finally well you are good to go don't worry you can always rewind too um I love it I'm not sure what you're agreeing with but I love it I'll take it. Bon Servant says, the orbs have tripped me up. Going through things, et cetera, that makes me seriously consider the supernatural something. It's Nephilim and all that stuff. Okay, so if you don't know what she's talking about, they're orbs, meaning they're circles, and they look metallic, but sometimes they don't look metallic. Sometimes they look like light bulbs. Or maybe they're metal-ish with light on top of them or coming from inside. Who knows? But yes, there have, I mean, this is not a theory. There's video of these types of things. Orbs are traveling together in formation. They make triangles. They look like they're chasing stuff. There's some videos of orbs tracking down other types of UFOs. like the Tic Tac shaped or the, you know what I mean? The saucer, the cigars, guys, and then the orbs show up. Like they're not on the same team. It appears at times there's that. And then, yes, there's, again, you can see if you go look, orbs will, and there's a lot of reporting on it and witnesses and things for years that these types of things happens, but I've just, you can see it. On that Skinwalker Ranch show, an orb goes into a mountainside and then comes out. Like it's not even there. Like it comes in at the top, you know, at a distance. It goes down into the mountain, into a mesa, basically, right? And then it comes as if it never altered course at all. It comes right out through the front. So why would that mean Nephilim? I don't know. I don't know why that would mean evil at all. All that would mean is, to me, whatever that is, whether that's a drone of some kind, like somebody's piloting it, or whether something is inside it, or maybe it has an intelligence of its own, I don't know, that it can manipulate like the Lord did, walking through walls. So that's a good argument for dimensional manipulation or quantum travel or something like you're going in between atoms or I don't know. But you're seeing things like that. You see them literally there one second and then gone the next, not fly away gone, just poof, gone. Gone, gone. What's that? Okay. That doesn't say good or evil to me. It's very neutral. It's something, though. Okay, anyway. Another thought is that when the pit is opened in Revelation, Revelation 9. Fifth trumpet, right? And other stuff seems more like Ezekiel stuff that you can't explain in natural terms. Yeah, I mean, we know that's part of the story, right? We're talking about the seven trumpets and the fifth trumpet and this abyss being opened up and things flying out of it, and they're harmful and they're demonic, yes, and they're led by a demon or a fallen angel or something, king of the bottomless pit. Yeah, that's demonic. We know, yes, for sure, but we also know that we're not there yet. We're not there yet. We're not at the fifth trumpet. So just because we see things that maybe kind of sort of look in that realm, does that necessarily automatically mean they're evil? It might. Don't get me wrong, guys. I really don't have an opinion on it. I'm just trying to get you not to have an opinion on it either as far as making a moral judgment that they're good or evil. All I'm saying is, from what I can tell, we don't know diddly about that yet. Maybe there's more than one group. Maybe the good and the bad are accessing these things. Maybe there's a third party, like I said before. Maybe there's neutral. Maybe it's actual another species from another world. It's still possible. I'm not sure if that's the My preferred explanation, like, I don't think that's the best evidence right now, but, I mean, it could. Psalm 68.5 in a complete Jewish Bible. Sing to God, sing praises to his name, extol him who rides on the clouds. His name, Yahweh, glad in his presence. Right, the cloud rider, that's what he's called. That's what he always... um has been known as right way back to the exodus and all that stuff yeah so jesus and god himself that's jesus um he definitely participates in that kind of travel um cool idea to envision yeah yep Bonservant says, well, my guardian angel's name is George. I think I'll have to ask him if he can divulge. Hey, you know what? If you have that kind of relationship, if you really do have that, ask. I say ask away. Why not? Anyways, guys. Okay, so that's the thought. That's the process. I want to continue to hear from you. And I believe I got a fly here because I got a knock on my door. So anyway, guys, till next time. Love you so much. This is Pastor Manti. Please get in touch with me. Go to unsealedpodcast.com and let's get to work on this Council of Christians on the UAP issue. Bye-bye.