Unsealed: Russia, China and UFOs
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Hey, this is Unsealed, the official podcast of Wings of the Eagle. I am Chris Mantei, your host. Christopher, mom calls me, so that's good enough for me. Please let me know who you are, where you're watching from. We're on various platforms throughout the... Multiverse throughout the internet and social media, including YouTube, of course, Facebook X and Instagram and the end time church app endtime.app. Please, if you don't have that, go get it right now. Hello T-Rex rocking out on a Wednesday. Yeah. It's a little different day. Um, usually it's a Thursday that we go live here, but whatever. Gary, welcome, friend. Hey. T-Rex says, watching from mom's basement. I don't know if that's true, but it would be par for the course. Hey, bondservant. Welcome, my sister. Thank you. Yeah, and by the way, a good thing to do would be to share this right now, please. It'd be awesome for... The algorithm so people can find it. 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That's Sarah number one. Now here's another Sarah. There's Sarah with an H. uh that's sarah without the age so cool a bunch of awesome sisters here man where's the dudes at there's gary's here so I know that much but anyways always fun to hang out with the smart ladies and these ladies are smart no doubt uh first met this sarah in uh israel in um 2017 Right? Yeah. That was super fun. And the other Sarah, Dr. Sarah says, Professor says, always love when you get into UFO stuff. See, now, thank you for saying so. That's not the majority opinion, my friend. But that's cool because that's how the spirit's leading, so I go where the spirit leads. All right, that's what we got to do. Stay in the word of God. If you're my Christian brother or sister, first of all, that's all that truly matters. Because we run into it all the time, right? Somebody's maybe not doing so great. Maybe somebody's dying. Maybe somebody's in a situation where they need deliverance or rescue in one way or another. Anyways, the point is, your relationship with Jesus and the fact that if he's your Lord or not is the only question that matters. And you're going to face him on Judgment Day. Let's hope you have the blood of Jesus to cover your sin. That's it. That's all I'm saying about that. So get that out of the way, all right? And then we'll talk about this stuff. I will, Sarah. I will let him. I screw up constantly, but sometimes he's clear and I'm listening. Still waiting to see UFOs here because I haven't heard anything recently. Well, that's where Bon Servant lives near the NORAD facility. headquarters in colorado so anyway did I give this hope I didn't give anything away there um sarah oh yeah don't don't you know I mean that's you're welcome but I'm glad you feel that way I guess but trust me nobody watches this so you're not All our fame is very, very small with mankind. That's fine, right? As long as heaven is watching. 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Okay. um right so let's let's get into this um there's a there's a lot of angles and and ramifications but I want to talk about russia and china and this ufo issue because um there's there's a lot of information and misinformation and just unknown or like uh not popularly known information um about russia and china as far as this ufo issue um there's different schools of thought number one is the folks that um are convinced still that every ufo we see even though they are classified as unexplained and and and and display these um there's these five behaviors that they exhibit that are not readily explainable. Some of them have all five, including if you record them on instruments and data and systems where they're maybe invisible to the naked eye, but there they are on your instruments and vice versa. Anyways, some people are convinced that even though all those factors are there, they're still made by humans. I think that's incredibly ignorant to think that. I mean, it's just not smart. But whatever. Some people think it's Russia and China and or China. China is just very recent. You should know, right? If you are of a certain age, China was a joke until, I don't know, 20 years ago. As far as like military threats. Yeah. They were all, you know, maybe locally they were maybe threatening, but there certainly couldn't threaten, you know, across the world. But now they can. And so and there's basically there's not a long list of countries that can do that and that are belligerents. So people are thinking this is the UFOs or Russia and China. Well, China was an agrarian poor, had no ability to make anything when UFOs started to appear. or not started to appear, but your modern era since the 40s and 50s and 60s, where there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cases, they weren't in any position to make anything. So it's not them. At least it hasn't been them. And then people say, okay, well, it's the Russians. And this was a big... initial reason why in the 30s and 40s when the Americans started when we started seeing and experiencing and interacting with these things that this is not actually ours so it must be Russia or else I don't want to think about what it is And so they kind of went the crash course on that. And basically half the government at that time, I'm talking about, you know, from the Defense Department to the newly created Air Force after Roswell to the newly created CIA after Roswell and all that stuff. Basically, half of them were given the task to see if it's Russia or not. And the other half was to study it scientifically to see how this is even possible that these things exist because they know they exist. Yeah. So people say, well, some people are assuming that it's an American issue or something. Russia has just so you know, Russia has had UAP UFO, not only incidents, but military interactions with them for decades, decades. at least going back to the 80s I'm sure farther than that but remember this is the soviet union um era so the authoritarian um you know information doesn't really get out easily but when the when the um when the berlin wall came down and the and the ussr collapsed and that whole era right 1991 to you know 99 then anyway it was right after 91 I believe the Soviet Union actually came down and one of the first western journalists some say the first western journalists to go to russia period was this guy named george knapp and if you ufo students uh probably know george uh he's one of the ogs um as far as an investigative reporter he's the he is the first that I know of um at least in modern um Times, who just is really going after where the evidence is. And so he went to Russia right away and met with a guy from the Soviet army or ex, you know, no more Soviets, army that or military or something. Anyway, he was on their UAP UFO mission. He was part of the ones tasked to stop them from hurting Russia. Basically, turn over a bunch of documents with a bunch of incidents. And yes, Russia has not only encountered UFOs in the 80s and before, but shot at them. So you would not be shooting at stuff that's yours. And if the Americans didn't think it was us and thought it was Russia, and then Russia says, I don't know what this is, but I'm shooting at it. Who else is left? All right. Anyway, yes, documented. Not only did they shoot at them, some of their pilots have died trying to go into combat with them. And the secret that really hasn't come out yet, but what there's inklings of is that American pilots have also died engaging in these things over the years. But anyways, I mean, flying. And so, yes, Russia has been dealing with it for a long, long time. I'm sorry. I have to Insta-block all these. The X platform is full of porn trolls and stuff. Got to get rid of them. Anyway, the other aspect is Here, there's a guy named Richard Geldreich, who is one of the absolute best people to follow about this thing. He is a genius. Every major power, China, USSR, Russia, and US, has in one way or another had military UAP encounters. Many involve multiple radars and military jets chasing them. Each also considers the topic a matter of the highest military secrecy. Yeah, and so that's true. Then we saw a couple weeks ago, remember the whole thing with Mike Rogers, the congressman, and all of a sudden you've got to go, we've got this urgent national security threat, and Biden's got to unclassify all this stuff right away. By the way, what came of that? nothing nothing was even confirmed as far as I could tell it was kind of the you know asking around get somebody to leak what it's about and they said the you know the the behind the scenes was yeah this is a russian um saddle nuclear satellite um escalation that you're supposed to not do we committed in the 60s not to do such things but yet they're going to go ahead and do it apparently they haven't done it yet or they're ready to launch it but they haven't it's not ready anyway that was the quote-unquote urgent thing apparently that mike rogers wanted to tell the world about invited literally the whole congress down to the secure information facility to go hear it all and uh you know he said biden you got to unclassify all this stuff and of course he that was the end of it so anyway the point is remember all that Yeah, so it just so happens that, and thank God for people who actually do journalism anymore. I'm going to find it. I don't know. I had it before. The U.S. doesn't seem to fear Russia, but it does seem to greatly fear the ramification of their actions in space. Here's the thing. We learned the House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers' recent bizarre public push for declassifying a, quote, serious national security threat became entangled with a concerning briefing on UAP the same day. According to sources, the wording of Representative Turner's public statement coincidentally and ironically mirrored the sentiments conveyed by individuals who had received the briefing from Lou Elizondo that same day, an issue which had been ignored and dismissed by Representative Turner. Lou Elizondo said, Again, I'm assuming you know these things. You might not. You might be new to this whole thing. This is 2017. The New York Times broke the story wide open. This is where all these new videos, the gimbal and the Tic Tac and the Go Fast, all these... videos that were leaked and the story that came out from the Pentagon actually has, even though they've denied it forever, they actually do still have a UFO program and research and more. And Lou Elizondo was the guy in one of these programs and decided to come out and become public basically about it and that's how the the new york times started investigating anyway and again those videos that came out originally were poo-pooed and said they're not you know we don't know what this is this is not real yada yada but it turns out when pressed by the new york times oh yes actually they are real and they're all unidentified we don't know what they are I mean this is a big deal anyway that's alessandro and so alessandro is giving additional secure briefings to Congress, and that, allegedly, that is what is freaking them out about some UAP threat. And I don't know anything more about it, but apparently that's where this attitude came from or this posture. And Turner, as we said a couple of episodes ago, he doth protest too much. Because what he was referring to, if this is the Russian satellite thing, there's a missing piece somewhere. Like he's just totally, what do you call it? Projecting? Like projecting what he actually heard and putting it on this other issue? I mean, the exact same words, but he personally is not going to admit to or publicize the UAP thing because he already gutted the law that would have provided more public disclosure about it. So he's very interested in not doing that. But he did it for this other thing, so either he's just trying to deflect attention and say, yeah, I'm really a good guy. Public disclosure is all right with me. Check this out. Or there's a connection. There's a connection between Russian activity in space and violating... a uh treaty that the united states and russia have I believe are the only signatories I may be wrong about that um but basically we agreed in the 60s not to put any weapons in space um and that was the flap with the whole you know reagan star wars program and yada yada But now apparently it looks like Russia wants to unilaterally change that. And because they're losing in Ukraine and Putin is a little Hitler, he just wants to cause massive death and destruction and keep himself in power as long as he can live. So anyways... So apparently they're changing that status quo and that in itself apparently is a big enough deal to perhaps invoke or change something in the status where now UAPs will be a problem if they do this. I don't know. something's happening in there all right so we just I want you all to know that and be aware that that's happening right now um and there's more I can go into about this I don't think I will but just um let's just say it's a very intentional um It's a very intentional alternate narrative. Narrative. That's big with the Defense Department and government generally, right? Control the narrative. The narrative has been done and will continue to be built up if they are not ready to reveal this stuff for national security, which has always been the claim. Okay. Okay. And so they're going to not just not just be tight lipped about it and just not talk. which would be one thing, but to literally lie about it and to make stuff up and to deflect on purpose to change the narrative that's in the country at large or the culture at large or the social media now because they can't control it. You can't control the narrative anymore. Evidence is here. And you have National Archives now with thousands of documents that all of a sudden have to be there that you didn't want anyone to see. Not all of them, but the point is it's going to be very, very hard to build and keep a narrative that you want. One of those ways is throwing out all the poop against the wall to explain how our pilots are seeing UAPs and our aircraft carriers. And like official people who work for you in the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies that are not crazy and that really do know what they're talking about and really are recording these things and you can't keep the lid on it. So one of the bogus stories you're going to hear is it's Chinese or it's Russian when we know they're not. Again, not standard, you know, not drones, not highly advanced, super fast missiles, you know, flying wings. Very, very identifiable things that aren't. I mean, yeah, there's technologies that are getting better, but nothing as far as what, like, you know, the Tic Tac or the gimbal is. videos prove. Nobody has anything like that. That's just a fact. So what does that mean? That's a different story. But I think we just would be well aware and to know that, yes, Russia for decades has engaged with UAPs, UFOs. They don't know what they are either. They shoot at them. They have their own program to try to shoot them down, to try to get the materials, to try to reverse engineer it, to get weapons. just like us. And now China has their own program to do the same thing. You don't do that if it's your stuff. Anyway, let's move on beyond that. But yes, they're engaging. They have programs. And oh, what did China just say? China just said this yesterday. It might help if I put my glasses on. By the way, I encourage you all to go watch last week's podcast and on YouTube or whatever in the description, you're going to find a big old reading list. It's going to help you a lot. Where's the Chinese statement? I thought I had it here somewhere. I'm going to find it because now that I brought it up, I'm sure I've made you all curious. Okay. Acknowledgement that Chinese media here it is Chinese government is now seriously engaging with UAP as a quote national defense threat Since 1998 And China activates its space strategy to counter the United States People's Liberation Army, PLA. That's the Chinese military. Quote, unidentified aerial phenomenon countermeasure system is also aimed at military restraint. It's a bulky kind of translation, but here it is. Last year, there was an incident with the Chinese reconnaissance balloon was shot down over U.S. territorial waters. You remember that last February. During the Cold War, there was a serious military conflict between East and West. There were sometimes conspiracy theories, but each country is trying to proceed with information disclosure from an extremely calm standpoint. This is China. Attack methods that were previously unimaginable, such as unmanned aerial vehicles and drones, have become a reality now. And reality is that authorities have no choice but to disclose information that, quote, unidentified flying objects are flying. However, we as scientists do not completely rule out the existence of extraterrestrial intelligent life. Anyway, so they're taking it seriously. And apparently they have some kind of policy of engagement with them, like military engagement, not like talking. So that's the general breakdown of the situation that I wanted to get there. And I'm sure I missed a bunch of angles. But let's see what you guys are asking because there's a bunch of stuff in here. So sorry about that. Remember, if you have any question or comment or whatever, or Facebook, YouTube, or Instagram, X, even our official app, at endtime.app, endtime.app. Please go get that and use it. And I'm checking that right now for input. And here we go. Sarah says, Sarah on X, where do you think UFOs are compatible with scripture? I'd really like to know. Well, I mean, I don't want to be obtuse about this, but it's a long story. I mean, it's a good question. It's a long answer. I would refer you for better answers to back in the summertime and the early fall of this podcast where I kind of broke down how it is compatible with And basically, we should resist the temptation to be reflexive or arrogant in our understanding or what we think they are because we might be wrong. Um, I mean, I'm all about, as you know, you know, Sarah and all of you listening and watching should know that I am all about proving things with scripture. And if, and if a, it's not in there, then if something's not in the Bible, it means all options are on the table. Number one. Number two, if it is in the Bible, then we should really understand what it says and what it doesn't say and be extra careful because now we're dealing with God's word and his reputation. Be extra super mega careful not to say something it doesn't say or to go too far or not far enough. and be specific when he's specific, okay? So, Sarah, the fastest answer I can give on that is there are possibilities. It would certainly fit into a general framework of a warning by Jesus that the heavens and the earth will be shaken, that there will be things falling from the sky, that there will be things in the oceans in Luke 21. That will be very troubling and people will be passing out from fear because they don't know what's coming upon the world. Yeah. Just generally that, for sure. And the problem that I see with, again, from the Christian point of view, from people who want to go to the Bible for answers and want to go to God for answers on these things, have kind of retreated into two camps, and they both might be very wrong. Number one is... the kind of happy-go-lucky, God-made everything in the universe, therefore there are, you know, if there are UFOs, they must be visitors from another planet, and therefore they must be good, or, you know, there are friends, you know, space brothers, you know, that whole thing. The Catholic Church basically has said that. For example. So that's one end. And the other end is, it's all demons. or demonic and for I just I would love to engage on that I would just do a show maybe just on that word and how it how when you say when one would say you know ufos are demons or demonic that's physically not possible you don't know what the word means you know like we we got to get that stuff sorted out um So anyway, the other camp is it's all demonic, and the other camp is they're space brothers. Let's sing kumbaya and not worry about it. And so the truth could be very different than both of those things. And I think there's ample scriptural evidence to at least consider – that what we're seeing, just the actual vehicular, not even the super paranormal, you know, other aspects of this, which there are, there are, But just the actual vehicles or what we see, what we think are vehicles flying in the skies or going under the water or, you know, maybe even landing on the ground are made of stuff, actual materials. I think there's evidence, at least circumstantial evidence that you could point to that say, well, maybe the angels use this. Maybe this is how they get around. Maybe this is how they traverse space. between heaven and earth. And I mean, when you say heaven, I'm talking about another dimensional reality. And that's just the best way I can put it in physics terms is another dimension because we know it exists. God and the angels and the souls of the dead are somewhere, but we can't see them. We can't go to look up in the sky and see them. We can't go to another planet or something and see them. So we have to believe they are there. And by the way, not just God and the angels and the dead, the righteous dead, right? The souls that are in Christ, et cetera. Where's Sheol? Where's the place of the dead? Where are those people? Where are the angels who are not serving God? Where are the fallen angels? Where is Satan himself? Why can't we see Satan? I mean, all that. So there's some kind of veil. There's some kind of other dimensionality there that maybe perhaps requires transportation. Now, God uses some kind of transportation. I mean, at some point, yes, Ezekiel and the whole famous thing about Ezekiel's wheel within wheels, yada, yada, and the throne upon this four-legged thing, and it's flying in every direction, and it goes up, and it's coming in fire. Okay, what about Elijah and the chariot of fire? Why was that necessary to bring him to heaven? Things like that. Or Jesus going up in a cloud and coming back in a cloud. What's up with that? Anyway, that's not a very short answer. T-Rex says the 70s phenomenon in Russia, the Petrozavodsk. Is that the one in Siberia? Or is that something different? Um... i don't know remind me but there's a lot russia has there's a lot of stuff I mean if you want to go research what has happened in russia and the ufo side of it they have not been left out oh by the way sorry one other thing bond serving before I get to that um one other aspect I do want to tell you about was I don't know about china And you should know by now the truth of the matter about the, yes, our nuclear weapons and tests and rockets and missile silos have been actually turned off, affected, manipulated by UAPs. documented since the 70s and maybe even earlier and they still are seen around nuclear sites to this day so I don't know what that all means but it's it really happened and we got to wrap our mind around that why would maybe why would that happen but also what happened to russia In our – there's a very well – there are two very well-documented cases, one from Russia and one from America. And it was – they're similar in every way except for the opposite – ending, which is in America, there was UAP in North Dakota, perhaps one of those ICBM silos. Okay, this is where we keep our intercontinental ballistic missiles in the middle of the country to theoretically keep them from attack from an enemy so they'd always be safe when we need to launch at Russia or China or whatever. UAP came to that location, shut down the missile, where they had no ability to control it at all. Now, if they needed to launch, they couldn't. And it was temporary, and then the UAP went away, and then service came back like nothing happened. Now, in Russia, same thing happened. One of their locations, I believe this was in Ukraine, back when the Soviet Union existed. So I say Russia, but the Soviet times, at which point Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, which, by the way, which is why Putin, the maniac, wants Ukraine back in the stable. The same thing happened there. They came to an ICBM site, a UAP, and they messed with the controls. Only this time for them, they turned it on like it was going to launch. which the Russians did not want. No, thank you. Please turn off. Again, it was temporary, and the UAV went away, and it went back to normal. But the point is, we've had similar experiences with the most crazy dangerous weapons that we've ever made. Um, and both have UAP interest and they're flexing whatever they are, whatever this UAP thing is, they are absolutely flexing on our technology, whether it be that the ICBM, you know, nuclear warhead stuff or making our airplanes look like toys. with the videos that we have coming out now and that are still going to come out even more. And this goes all the way, guys. This is not a new thing. This is not some 20 David Fravor and whatever from 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago, but that's all true. But back to the 50s, airline pilots were seeing them and signing after David's and saying, yeah, this is true and it's not a plane and Anyways. OK. Did most bond servant says, did most of the senators block public info on this? Breaking news, McConnell is stepping down. Oh. That must literally be breaking right this second because I didn't hear that. When you say this info, public info on this, this meaning what exactly? Can you be more specific, please? Hello, my brother from India. Here's the internationals checking in. MS, what's up? Maybe the movie Independence Day is a bit prophetic. Boy, I hope not. Congressman Mike Turner, Sarah says, Sarah on YouTube, Congressman Mike Turner represents Ohio's 10th Congressional District where Wright-Patterson Air Force Base is located. That's correct. And that, again, if you're a researcher, if you're a student of this UFO UAP topic, you know that is ground zero, basically, for UFO secrecy. And again, it's not because somebody made it up and it's a conspiracy theory. We know that's true. Lots and lots and lots of proof. Anyway, so yes, the not-so-difficult thing to believe is the very district, the very part of Ohio where Wright-Patterson is, which has always been the first place to take any wreckage, for example, or special stuff that you don't want anyone to know about is in that location, and he represents them, so they're going to make sure they know, he knows, you represent us, pal. So you make sure that nothing gets in any law that will make us give up anything. I know there's some other questions here I want to get to see if Bond's servant had clarified that. I'm sorry. But she did say the interesting thing, speaking of UAP shutting down missile places, I don't think there has been any kind of hostile act from them. Mostly it seems like hindrance actions. Um... right I think uh have they never shot at our planes or stuff like that not that I know of um not that I know of right it seems to be like more like we're better than you and our stuff is way better than your stuff and um I think it's more, whether it's hindrance or not, I don't know, but it's definitely trying to show that whatever that is, it's way more advanced than our stuff. And it doesn't matter what we try. If they wanted to stop it, they could. Or if they wanted to do it, they could. Like, make it happen. Like with the Russian, you know, the Soviet example. They could actually go to silos and turn them on. Ah, here it is. Bond servant. Was meaning about releasing all the information from the skiff. For example, has there been resistance making pancakes? Don't ever be sorry for making pancakes. Um... The information from the skiff, there has been resistance to release that? I don't... You're talking about Turner's thing on Valentine's Day, right? That was just two weeks... Exactly two weeks ago. Um... The resistance to let that info out? I don't know. But, I mean, obviously it hasn't been. I haven't heard anything official. I guess maybe it's semi-official. What's his face? Who's the national security? Sullivan or whatever? Maybe he may have said something on the record about it. So I don't know. Mike Turner, as far as these things go, the committee that he's on, he's one of the gang of eight people. So it really doesn't get any higher than that group, other than the presidential administration as far as authority goes. and like classification knowledge. And I mean, allegedly, but. So not a lot has come out, but apparently that's what it was, what he was referring to in the, in the skiff that he, you know, the, the topic that was presented, um, in the skiff that he, he told everyone about come, come learn this real quick. And I want to declassify as soon as possible with the president. Um, they had, that thing was apparently the Russian and space maneuver. Why would that be such a big deal anyways? I mean, yeah, it's a big deal, but... Alert the media? Like, that's never happened, what he did. Okay. Let's go... Mac, make sure I didn't miss anything. Okay. Have the... Mukul says, have the Iranian or Turkish militaries ever encountered UAPs? I know the Turk... Turkey has a pretty... extensive um documented case file and iran definitely has a couple stories that I remember yes um like government level you know they knew about it yeah turkey's had a couple of really incredible videos actually um the past couple years so yes oh wait but you saying militaries um well they knew about it did they encounter them like try to engage them I don't know or I forgot right yeah it's the actual engagement by militaries I'm not I'm just not sure Some Christian scholar MS says some Christian scholars claim UAPs are basically the watchers or Nephilim of Genesis six. Any thoughts? That's a that's a big one. UAPs cannot be demons. What if they're the watchers? OK, now that's that's kind of what I was talking about earlier about what demons are and we should know what they are. Watchers is, and again, that's a very, I don't want to say fringe, but not a lot of Christians even know what that is. And after, you know, how old am I? After 30 years. of you know hearing all kinds of opinions on this christian opinions um as far as watchers and nephilim and and all that it's a lot of people just don't they have a little information from the bible we don't have a lot so we have a little and then make it into much more than that I'm just saying we got to be careful I mean, that phrase, yes, Genesis 6, and if you include Enoch in that, Enoch says watchers, Daniel says watchers, and that's basically it. I mean, it just says the word in terms of... Maybe there are like principalities, like levels that are ordained by God to do this. That's one thing. But if we're talking about... Genesis 6, those are rebellious angels or whatever you want to call them. In other words, did God create a job, create a station or a creature or whatever called a watcher and this is what they were supposed to do and then And then they didn't. Some were faithful to that job description and some went rogue. If that's the case, then there's really no difference between them and any other angel or principality or heavenly creature in that they have free will. But what is it, right? I mean, if... Like Jude and Peter say they left their first estate. They rebelled. They sinned by actually leaving heaven and coming to the earth and beginning with making babies with human women. So that was the violation. Was the violation leaving heaven at all? Was it coming to the actual ground on the earth? Was it engaging with humans, with sons of Adam and Eve, you know, like human beings? Or was it the sexual act? Like what exactly in there is the sin? So depending on what that is, I mean, obviously we know rape is a sin and humans are not supposed to procreate with any other form of life. So that's obviously a sin. And of course their children, which are the Nephilim, caused a lot of chaos and were purely violent and evil and stuff. But then they all died. They could die. They weren't immortal. They died, but God said your soul is now going to be confined to the Sheol or the earth itself. And you'll now be called the demons. That's what, you know, that's what Enoch says. So if we're talking about, you know, Nephilim or, you know, they're all dead. As far as we know, unless somebody survived, unless they made new ones and they're giants hidden out somewhere. I mean, now we're getting into some really cool topics, but really long ones. So. um uh t-rex's follow I said the incident in russia and I said the siberia thing she says no not the siberia one that was crazy too with the forest level yeah that's exactly that's the tongue tongue and tongue and used to tongue it's just a whatever yeah the p phenomenon was multi-location sightings if I recall correctly yeah I'm positive you're right I don't have recall right this second though about it I'm sorry um they I sarah youtube I had no idea they turned one on yeah apparently that was that's one of the russian the soviet um testimonies yeah yep It is a little scary, isn't it? Because like you say, then it's a different narrative, right? It's a different narrative than we're here to keep the peace or something and make sure you don't blow yourself up, which is what a lot of UFO people think. Don't destroy yourself. Make sure you evolve or whatever garbage. But yes, if they're turning them on, then they're saying they can start World War III at any moment and blame other humans, blame humans and get off scot-free when no one knows we did it. Sarah on YouTube says, there are so many more serious people going public now. Yes, you're right. The ball is rolling. It is. I think the ice is breaking. The dam is bursting. Whatever image you want to say about it, something has changed for sure. And it looks inexorable. Like you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube now. So it's just a matter of narrative spinning. Bond service says, well, Grush 2, everything is kept locked down. You mean the info in the skiff? The Grush situation is not over, by the way. They're When I say it's ongoing, like still happening today, this is what I mean. So we had Grush's testimony, obviously, last year in July. Now it's been, what, eight months? And he was very specific in that public setting. And then some of the aspects, some of the questions he was asked, he said, I can tell you, but only in private because I haven't been cleared to say it publicly yet. Excuse me. So that was the whole skiff situation. But since then, he hasn't been allowed to get a skiff with any senators. As far as I know, other people have, but he hasn't. And now he's trying to he's been trying since the end of the year to actually put out a public opinion. op-ed in a major newspaper or major publication. I don't know if it's the New York Times or Wall Street Journal or something about something else. He said new information that would help, again, advance the understanding of this that he's not making this stuff up. and talking about firsthand accounts and, uh, stuff like that. So what he hadn't been clear to say per his, what they call the dopser, which is, um, um, defense department and CIA or whatever intelligence, um, permission slip. Basically you have, if you're playing the game, if you're playing along and even as an ex employee, uh, which he is since last year. You don't work for the government anymore, but yet you're still bound by secrecy. And if you say certain things that are classified, you can go to jail still. or be prosecuted, or God knows what. So he's trying to play by the rules. I mean, I don't want to say I don't give him credit. I wish he wouldn't, honestly. I'm sick of people playing by the rules in this. If it's unethical, if you're hiding things in the public that you know should be out there, and people are being hurt to keep the secret, you tell your NDAs and whatever else you sign to go to hell, and you're going to tell the truth, the full truth, the whole truth. That's my opinion. Anyways. So anyway, he's been trying to write this op ed since the end of the year sometime. And he was saying, yeah, maybe it's maybe in January it'll come out. And then January comes and goes. He's like, maybe February. Like, why? Why don't you not know? It's already written. Because he submitted it, because he's trying to play fair, to the Pentagon again, to the DOPSER process, to get it approved. And they're slowballing it. They've taken two months, apparently, to get back to him. Why? Well, they're nervous about what he's going to say. So they don't want him to say it. The problem is, I think he's so famous now, credibility is up there, and people trust him, basically, and they should, that if they come back and say, no, you're not allowed to say what you want to write, that would look even worse than maybe even admitting it, letting him speak. So I think that's what they're kind of going back and forth about now. So... We'll see what they're going to permit him to say. Ponservant says, considering the days of Noah, what Jesus told us, expect, it seems to me, there'll be very Enochian-like at the end times. That could be. That could be. People want to take the days of Noah statement and the days of Lot right by Jesus and think, okay, well, days of Noah, we know what happened there. Well, I mean, he told us what he meant at least at the ground level, which is... Nobody's going to know what's happening or nobody's going to expect the day of the Lord. It'll be like then where the flood just comes, even though they've been warned for decades and years and years exactly what's coming, they're not going to believe it. And they're going to go about normal life until the day of the Lord comes and sweeps them away. That's what the days of Noah, the days of Lot is about. That's what he meant by that. but there may be an extra dimension to it where what did happen in the days, obviously the days of Lot where sexual immorality had destroyed the culture in the city and God destroyed the city directly, like maybe that's what's going to happen too. Sounds like it might. And then with the days of Noah thing, why did that happen? We have a great flood taking away the whole world because everyone was in wickedness and the wickedness was because of these people offspring of the fallen angels of these angels and and people called the nephilim and all that what they did so are you going to see that again basically is the question and it's an open question I don't think it's a definite no but I don't think it's a definite yes either but it could be Now we're zooming in. This is what I've been teaching and trying to get people to realize. We know Satan will be cast out. Is it possible the heavenly battle will be going on near the end and UAP and all that stuff? UAP might be a part of that. The supernatural dimension is opened up. Hard to explain. Yeah, I know exactly what you're asking. I think that's the most grounded biblical way to think about this. is that maybe that's exactly what it's going to look like. And again, Daniel eight, it says the little horn has the power somehow to pull down stars from heaven and trample on them. Stars, of course, not being actual balls of fire or, you know, stars in the sky, but something in heaven, the usually angels are called the stars of heaven. There's something to that. I mean, uh sarah says my teenage daughter and I saw ufo once I don't think I ever told y'all I may as well admit it now the atmosphere is changing yeah you can come out you can you can come out it's a safe space um yeah like remember I i had a one of the previous episodes here we did a my um one and only as far as I know um experience and I was a small boy and uh you know grandma and brother were there and stuff but that's awesome yeah I'd like to see more information about that there or whatever if you want to do it in public or private um I think we covered that ms What if UAPs are angels in rebellion who are trying to harm or mess with human beings? That's possible. It's possible. My position right now is we don't know that for a fact. Because maybe good angels use those transportation modes as well. Maybe this is how God sends angels. Maybe there are different factions. And there is some evidence, and I'm not going to go into it today. We've already been on too long. But there is evidence emerging that there are potentially different different kinds of UAPs against each other. And there's actual, you might say, visual evidence of these things. And that the craft, or whatever you call it, themselves look different But yet there's still very physical looking objects and they behave in a visible way and there still looks to be height and weight and depth and that kind of stuff. Anyway, I'm not going to go into that today, but it's very interesting. I think the MS says, I think the watchers married the daughters of men, which is in its sin in and of itself. Yeah. Right. So obviously that, that sure definitely is a sin, but at what point does it become, you know, did you cause you left? Cause you went to Mount Hermon. That's what Enoch says. They went to Mount Hermon and conspired, uh, to, to do this thing. And at what point was to make them rebellious. In other words, we're good angels coming to the earth and visiting and hanging out and talking on mountains. Remember Jesus said, MS says, remember Jesus said that in the resurrection, they don't marry, but are like the angels in heaven. Yeah, they neither marry nor are given in marriage. They are children of the resurrection. They don't die. There's no reason to have children, basically, because you're not going to die. You don't need to procreate. Now, how does that work with You know, rebellious angels and women who apparently made children? You got me. I mean, there's not many options, but we're not told exactly. T-Rex is coming on board to support Sarah because she, yes, and I know this story, she saw a bunch of UFOs over Hudson River Valley flying impossibly. Yep. And yes, you can fill out, if you're comfortable in doing this, if you want to just share your story in a private way at least, or with a brother in Christ that is going to not mock you, you can go to wingsoftheeagle.com/podcast. And at the bottom of that page, there's a form you can fill out that says, yes, I've experienced a UAP or UFO, and here's my story. And it won't be seen by anyone. I'll just get a notification and have a record of that. Anyway, it's up to you. Pretty sure I reported to MUFON when it happened. Okay, there you go. Then there should be a record. Do you want to talk about awesome records, dude? I mean, about this topic? MUFON is the king of independent, you know, just... normal citizens and they encourage everyone I guess but as far as documenting this this situation for now when they've been out 1969 or something so like 50 years plus yeah safe space you got it multiple type multiple causes or types of uaps fully on the table Mm hmm. Multiple explanations fully on the table. Mm hmm. Can't wait to hear your story, Sarah. T-Rex, that is a good point to end on. OK, and that is what I'm that is what I know you understand it. T-Rex understands it and maybe some of you do, but most of the people in the church have no understanding of this point. And they don't want to understand it. I get it. Believe me. I know. Most people in my church look at me funny. I mean, my local church. They look at me funny and say, what? Are you serious about this? Yeah, I'm serious about it. Because something's real about it. So, yes, there may be actually you can't just it seems like we we're not we don't have the luxury of saying UFOs or UAP as one thing. Like this is what they are. They're flying saucers and and they appear in the sky and they and they act all mysterious and they disappear and that's it. But that's not it. That's why they're called UAP really from the beginning, but it was always classified as a term like the government ever really referred to them that way. But there's a reason why they're called anomalous phenomenon. Anomalous meaning we have no explanation for it. They're anomalies in nature. Like we don't know how they perform with it. Like T-Rex is saying, they're performing impossible flying. That's why it's called anomalous. We have no idea how it does that. how that's happening. We don't know anything that can do that. No creature, no technology, no invention, nothing. That's anomalous. And that's the easy way to understand anomaly. You're talking about data, anomalies in data, you know, electromagnetic fields. I mean, like gravity. I mean, like... things you can just measure but you can't see and the same anomalous things happen around these uaps in those measurements also so that's why it's called anomalous and phenomenon is because or phenomena the plural is because I don't know really what they are I mean they look they look like metallic machines but there's more to that than that And in a lot of ways, like some, they're not always shaped like a saucer. Sometimes they're shaped like a cigar. Sometimes they're shaped like a Tic Tac. Sometimes they don't look like they're metal at all. Sometimes they're balls of light. Sometimes they're spheres and orbs and of different colors and they change colors and they're not, they don't have a light on them. They are the light, right? Like, All those and more fit into the UFO UAP description. So there is no one thing that you can say, oh, that's this issue. There's a multitude. And why are they called UAP instead of flying objects now? Because they go underwater. When you hear the term transmedium, transmedium is a fancy way of saying they can go in the ocean, to the sky, low atmosphere where we are, high atmosphere where planes fly, and into space. The same object will go from the ocean depth to outer space in a matter of seconds. We don't have things that do that. Humans have no idea how to make that. We would love to do it. But there are things called the laws of nature and physics that prevent us from knowing how to do that. So anyway, that's why it's called anomalous and phenomena and not just an object flying that we don't identify called UFO. So UAP is actually a much better term in my opinion. I've grown to love it. And this is the final word on this today. T-Rex is very wise exhortation that multiple explanations are also on the table. Multiple explanations. It's just not adequate. It's not adequate to assume at this point From what we know now, from what is generally known, and even when you research it and you become a nerd about it and you try to get all the info you can, you're never going to come to a satisfactory conclusion about like, oh, they're this. It's this. For sure. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. That's the biggest secret of all or the biggest tragedy about this whole subject is even those who have been keeping the lid on it for 80 frigging years and the scientists, serious people, you know, pilots, you know, geniuses, physicists, experimental scientists, like people, rocket people, like nobody knows, right? After all this time, they cannot say this is that. So you've got whatever that means. It means it's beyond what we can explain in modern human understanding. Take that for what you will. It doesn't mean alien race. It doesn't mean somebody from a faraway galaxy. It might. But we have to be willing to say it might be what the Hollywood version is, which is other creatures from another planet. It might be. It might be something a lot more closer to home. Maybe another form of life in our solar system. Maybe on the moon or in the moon. Or maybe they live on Earth and they're just in hiding. Maybe they developed alongside and are just way, way more far advanced. Maybe they inhabit another dimension, and they've always been around, and they just peek through every once in a while, and this is what we see. Now, what does that mean? Does that mean they're angels and demons? If they do that, it might, but it might not. Anyway, I'm just going to leave it at that. Multiple explanations fully on the table is exactly correct. Bondservant, don't be... Look, you're supposed to play nice. I'm going to ask my guardian angel, George, about this. Wait, is that a Wonderful Life? It's a Wonderful Life reference? Anyways... But Sarah says, I only saw one. And this is with your, did you say your daughter? That's awesome. I mean, you get more than one witness. That's great. And I assume she would say the same thing you are about it. Oh, Clarence was the angel. Thank you. George was the man, right? clarence what an americanized gospel that is clarence the angel um yeah in a wonderful life yeah yeah yeah um right t-rex says hers was four or five discs too high up see zipping around colliding it so it looks like they were colliding yeah that's what I remember your story basically saying Oh, this is George likes tacos and coffee. I like tacos and coffee. Maybe I'm your guardian angel. Okay, enough of this. Enough of this. Of course, there's that one scripture that some people make a whole theology out of when Jesus said these little children have the face of their... Their angels have the face of their father in heaven. In other words, they have his attention all the time. So what is this? Does everyone get one? When you're a believer, do you get an angel assigned to you? Before you come to faith, does everyone get one? It's interesting because it is in there for a purpose. And then the only other thing I could think of is in the book of Acts. I mean, no, not in Acts. Was it in Acts? I can't remember. Was it the end of the gospel? Maybe an ax. When Peter's in prison, right? Yeah, it had to be an ax. When Peter's in prison and he's set free by an angel, but then the girls come back and tell the, you know, the servant girl come back and tells the story to the disciples. They're like, ah, that's just his, or he comes and knocks on the door. Excuse me, right? It's like, oh, that's just his angel. What? So there's something, you know, some kind of understanding there for us. Anyways, I love you all so, so, so very much. Thank you for hanging with me. This has been Unsealed. Believe it or not, yes, the official podcast of Wings of the Eagle. This is Christopher Mantai, your friend. 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