The Sphere Network Full Patrick Jackson Interview

The Sphere Network Full Patrick Jackson Interview. Patrick Jackson is our guest where his groundbreaking scientifically rigorous theories may blow your worldview apart. What if Hauntings and Poltergeists are real but NOT spiritual in nature? What if the Spheres and Orbs seen all over the world are not Extraterrestrial or secret programs but an Ultra-Terrestrial civilization that lives right here and is engaged in battle all around us all the time?! Over the course of our in-depth conversation, hear about the correlation between the "number of the beast" 666 and AI, about possible explanations behind the mysteries of Skinwalker Ranch and the Hitchhiker Effect, Shadow Beings, the famous TicTac and so much more! We start with the small "Type 3" spheres that are often in buildings and homes, then the "Type 2" spheres that I personally saw at treetop level and the famous "Type 1" spheres seen in triangular formation all around the world for many decades and maybe even centuries...

Transcript:

All right, welcome back to Unseal, the official podcast of Wings of the Eagle. Christopher Manti is always your humble

host here. I am truly truly excited about today and the guest that we have.

Uh, Mr. Patrick Jackson is the author of a book, I want to say new book. It's

been out a couple of months, but it's pretty new called The Sphere Network. And it has come along in my life at just

the right time. Just the right time. Um, if you've been listening to this show,

you've known that I've seen one of these things um last year driving along in the

highway. So, I am very very interested uh in his ideas about this. and he he

has more than ideas. He's got experiments and photos and lots and lots

of uh evidence behind it. So, I'm very very excited to welcome Mr. Patrick

Jackson to the Unsealed program. Welcome, sir. Thank you so much for making the time for us.

My pleasure. No problem. Thank you, man. So, okay. First of all, it's um fairly new book and you're

obviously active on X. People can find you there. And

the people have got to read this thing. I'm I'm really I really do I really do want

to encourage everyone to read it. No matter what your opinions or persuasions or whatever,

I really do want to encourage that because it is a novel approach

to what the heck is going on. So, how would you summarize this work and why do

you think it's important that people read it? Um well most um UAP books are a

case of an event will happen and uh the author will go to the location interview

people um to interview different people and then get a story together

kind of comi combine the data and then try and cut through all the the mud and

and find out what really happened and what went on. Um and that's generally the way that research has been going on

for a long time. But uh my approach is very different. I I'm much more of a a

boots on the ground and you know get my hands dirty kind of approach. Um and my my original interest um was polygists.

That was my that was my main interest because uh I've always been interested in the the weird paranormal stuff anyway

and just just to see if I could figure it out. Um, just to back up a step, it's

like uh I grew up in a kind of like a paranormal hot spot and um I basically

came face to face with what looked to be like a ghost monk in the middle of a field and I never seen anything like it

and never seen anything like it since. And um I even shot a laser on it to to

see if I can get a reaction out of it. It was like I put the laser on the ground, then to the body, then the face,

and it reflected, but the laser beam was dimmer, a lot dimmer than it would normally be, which was kind of

interesting. And then I got up and walked up to it, and it literally just dissipated in front of my eyes. And uh

that kind of sparked my interest because then I I asked the locals down the local pub and said, I said, you know, I uh I

thought I just saw a monk or something across the field. And he goes, "Oh, yeah, that's the mad monk. He haunts here." And I was like,

and I' never heard of that story before or I haven't seen it since either. It was just literally like a one-off um

experience, but it's always been bugging me. So, you know, growing up and I I

moved to London and I'm I'm pretty good at it. I I basically work in databases,

a lot of uh development, architecture, reverse engineering, uh administration, stuff like that. And

I I kind of come to the to the conclusion like, well, you know,

I'm paid to do quite quite extensive projects at work, reverse engineering

and so forth. Why why don't I just try to see if I can figure this out and just

just have a have a crack at it really. It wasn't my intention to write a book or or make a fuss about it or anything

like that. I just wanted to see if I could do it. So I I actually rented out a place called 30 East Drive which is

home to what's voted the most uh violent py in the UK. So I I rented the place

out for like four days and um I can start showing you I'll show you the presentation. You can we can start working through it.

So this is the book. This is the the sphere network. So

excellent cover by the way. Yeah. So yeah, I mean the backstory my

uh I work in a database developer uh work in central London, Cambridge uh

mostly in media and accountancy firms. Uh core responsibility is spotting database issues before they happen,

reverse engineering. Um one really good example was I was flown over to um uh a

country uh to look at the private bank. um their database kept crashing uh every

day after 9:00 am uh and so they were they were really upset and um it took me

like about two or three hours but what you notice is patterns so it kept crashing at the same time so uh we

couldn't get any error logs out of it because it happened before actually made any errors so it's a real strange

behavior and what it actually turned out to be was there there was a a particular user that was uh executing a particular

query that returned a data set that was so big it overwhelmed the uh buffer on

the server which then crashed the server, stopped services and the whole thing just went down and uh it it

confused the bank for like a good three weeks. So we got that working and but

that's the kind of thing it it what it is is it's kind of like spotting patterns and then kind of reverse

engineering behaviors and then coming up with conclusions and then testing it. So that's kind of what I do anyway for a

living. Um so yeah the last few years because I

wrote a first book my first book was a book called um quantum paranormal that was a much more deep dive into poly and

the more paranormal effects of what the spheres do it was the first book in the world to identify uh these small silver

spheres and buildings what I call the type threes um and this was all taken at

use drive um but now 2022 um so last few years I've been uh presenting uh clear

examples of UAP series in action. Um about a year before um the UAP hearings

um I shared my work my working model to um Senator Gillibbrand um

which was the the diagram I'm going to show you later. And in the beginning we was going to have lots of meetings and lots of uh

interesting chats but all the doors went quiet and everything slammed shut. So that's that's that was that. Um but then

you know when the the hearing did come about all they were talking about really was spheres which is kind of

interesting. So as of right now the spheres are

account for about 52% of all recorded UAP sightings which is huge. Um and

that's actually uh one of the key identifiers of what I'm about explain to you. Uh just an aside on that, could it

actually be higher than that? Because people see lights all the time and

yeah, it's just a light. You don't know what shape it is or you assume it's a a shape of a craft or or it makes some other

type, but maybe it's just a sphere, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um you can tell by the

formations and the the mathematical formations forming. For for example, like if you see a triangle, people are

assuming it's a triangle craft, but maybe you're just seeing three spheres in a triangle shape. That's right. That's right. Yeah. And

we'll get into that later actually. Um, right. But I think it's around about more like 80% if not 85%. Um, it's just what

people report. Most most of the time people don't report stuff. Um, but you know the the reality is is that the US

government and the government at a whole are in a real difficult position. It's like um they don't like stuff they can't

control. or tax. So I think that the the key is is to let civilians work it out

and then you know the way the way they kind of look at it is is the safest way

which is like the the smart observers the smart people will kind of work it out while the reactive people and the

reactive groups just won't believe it and it will just be dismissed. So when you wait when when people finally

realize what's happening it's like tomorrow will just be another day. you know, you go to the store and there'll

be food and you know, it'll just be another day. I mean, people people do react badly when government say things like when

COVID came out and you couldn't get a hot dog anywhere, you couldn't get a toilet shoe anywhere because people just

go on a crazy spending binge and just buy everything. Um and you know in

today's world where uh markets are so interconnected especially when it comes to oil and gas um and the fact that we

resource our uh we get our resources from um sensitive places in the world uh

this this this this subject is quite a difficult one to swallow.

So, uh, going back a few years, uh, Gary Nolan, um, identified that or

or publicly stated that, uh, I identified these fears in photographs

going back decades. Um, in fact, you can have a there's many black and white pictures where you can see them. It's

just people sort of didn't look at them. They're looking at the main object rather than what's actually in the background. Um, but it's always the same

process. It's always the same formations, the same process. And this has been going back absolute decades.

Um, in fact, it even goes back to religious times because there are religious depictions with the V

formations in within them as well. So, it's it's very interesting and it it actually I think this stuff has been

with us pretty much forever. So, I'm now the author of um a new book called Sphere Network. Um, it's reviewed to be

in the top five UAP books in the world. uh mic five marked five stars on Amazon

and the reviews are are pretty good. Uh I'll show them.

So here we are. So we got outstanding UAP phenomenon has been solved

a new framework real data and research I must read new information and so forth

and the this is because of the approach is very different. It's a a datadriven approach uh based on just logic. There's

no there's no woo. There's no magic or there's there's nothing of that sort. It's just basically black and white uh

relationships and logic uh and how it connects. That's true. I just want to I've read

the thing unlike maybe a lot of the interviews who don't actually read the books. They talk about Yeah, that's true. And I'm going to write a review

myself saying that, you know, backing that up. It's it's true. So, yeah. to to get to this point. Um I

mean this this has been a kind of like a life life journey I suppose is um I I

was always very interested in the paranormal growing up and uh so after I I saw the the the monk ghost monk thing

I um got into all the the British and the American um paranormal shows and I

just wanted to see what they were saying but none of it made any sense to me. It didn't none of it gelled. It it didn't

it didn't there was no logic to it. There was no there was no real analysis

to what they were saying. It's basically go into a building, hear noises, run around, dig up the history of the place,

and then leave the next day and not see anything. And then they'll go to another location and do the whole thing again.

And that will just go on series after series. And it's a business model that works. Um, you know, there's some some

there's some, uh, channels out there that just are dedicated to this stuff and it's a billion dollar a year

industry. So, um, I mean, I contacted certain channels a few years ago and,

um, they just weren't although they they looked at what I I presented and they were like, "Oh, yeah, you're probably right. That's really interesting." But

they won't change anything because it disrupts their uh, business model,

right? You see? So, I just wrote a book instead. and uh and got it out there.

And in the end, I I kind of said I got tired of it and uh they're vague explanations and blurry ideas and I just

thought, you know, well, if I can do this stuff at work, let me let me have a crack at it and uh see what I can find.

Um so yeah, this is Sturdy East Drive. Um it's up north about four hours from where I live. Uh and it's actually voted

the most haunted house in the UK. uh and it's brilliant because it's small. So everything happens in very small in

isolation. So it's very easy to start noticing the patterns and behaviors uh

what what's occurring in there. And what you what you should notice is that the building structure. So you have the main

house here and then you have this structure here and that's the important bit right here. So show you the next. So

when I went into 30 east drive um I went in there as not a believer but more of

like analys analysis like to just see what I could find see if I could spot anything see if you know I could see

something that other people haven't and uh within 15 minutes of being in the place this this event happened right

here and it's uh it's quite crazy. I'll show you it.

And that um is not actually a unique thing. That's actually um a constant

event. So that happens a lot of time like a few times of the week. Um, and

that that's what you call like um it's basically like a constant action that

specific action that has a specific reason. Um, so when you go down there and have a look that's like an internal

door. Uh, there's nothing in there. It's actually within the house itself. Um, there's nothing that would make those

sort of noises. It's just like a an empty room with with a with a wall. Um

and that that event that kind of noise or that that event itself where it bangs

is a it's a constant. It happens again and again and again just random what

seems to be randomly. Um and so we saw it, I saw it, but also other people have

seen it and seen it since. So when you when you uh see these actions, it's like

well what do you have? you have a a constant action that is out of place which seems to have a specific reason.

Um it's not just a you know a dead guy banging the door for for no reason. It's

a it's a deliberate action. So when what that tells you or what I noticed is that

that and other actions when I was in the place is that these aren't uh human

behaviors. They are um they're mechanical behaviors. the behaviors of machines

because it it starts up, it switches on and then it shuts down again. So that

can happen now and then you'll do everything in your in the in your in your mind to provoke it again and it

won't happen. But then two days later when you're not expecting it, it will happen again. And so what you're seeing

is a is a process. It's not interactive. It's just a process being executed. So

let me go to the next slide. So, this is where it all happens is right here. So, this is the um this is

what's great about the place. All the paranormal activity happens on this staircase and in the rooms next to it.

And if you look uh if you get your meters out and you stand about here, uh you get uh high energy moving EMF uh

levels. Uh so, basically, you put your meter up and the you'll get like a a

high spike come go up and then it'll go down again. Um, and also when you walk

under that area, you feel dizzy. So, it's like something weird is affecting you as you walk underneath it. So, it's

like it seems to be some sort of high energy source that that's there when when you come and go. And, uh, that was

strange when I when I saw that because I didn't actually know what it was at the time. Um, but this is common. People are

detecting this in the same spot all the time, every night, literally. Now, if you go in there and turn all the

electric off, it's still there. If you But if you go 1:00 in the afternoon, it's not there. But it start as the

evening draws on, it starts to starts to fire up and you start seeing all these um electrical signals everywhere.

So, you said you said EMF, electromagnetic frequency. Yeah.

So, this is another example. So this is what uh we're seeing in the building. So

this was taken on that that set of stairs. This is a full spectrum camera. Um and what you're seeing is a a

vertical black mass that moves in a very digital way without resistance or weight. And it moves in a very set speed

like it it moves like like this. So it doesn't speed up or slow down. It's very very pacific digitally. Um and this is

what people see all the time. It comes down the stairs, up the stairs. It whizzes by. Um, so this is this is one

of the weird weird anomalies you see in the building. Go to the next one.

And this is the type of thing people see all over the world. Yeah. The what we call black masses and

they're commonly seen in attics and basement. Uh, now this is the this is uh

the same place again. This is actually just around the corner. This is in the uh the hallway and you can again this

has been filtered so you can see it a bit clearer. But uh you see like a black line, a black mass which is here. This

is the long black mass. And then right here where the arrow is, you see something circular

right there. Right. Right. So you keep that in mind. And if you look at this one and this is another

example. So, this is when I had my Eureka moment because I I was studying

um all the videos and images for for about 6 months and I couldn't quite make the connection to see what's going on.

Nothing would make sense and then I saw this and what this came out turned out to be was a small silver sphere about

the size of a baseball hovering off the ground in inside the building. So, this this kind of makes a sense.

Once I saw this, it all was all like a Eureka moment because you're dealing with a drone. It's basically a small

drone and you have to ask yourself, okay, this is this starts to make sense now. Um, so let me show you some more.

Here's more pictures of it. So, as you can see, it flew in from uh the lounge

towards the door, and you can see this trail behind it. It then stopped dead, and it then moved to the left and then

came back again and had a look. Is this near that door that we heard the banging on?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

This here are the same objects from 1903. So people are seeing these balls, silver

spheres. Sometimes they're glowing, look like orbs. Uh and they fly through um

solid objects such as walls and doors and and so forth. Uh the actual technology is called quantum tunneling.

Uh the same thing was seen during World War II uh by the RAF and the US Air Force where these spheres would um would

called foo fires back then. They would um surround the craft and some would enter the craft and fly around inside

and the you know the US and the British thought they were Nazi weapons and the Nazis thought that they were allied

weapons, right? Um but it's the same thing. It's exactly the same thing.

And so these are the small guys, the baseball ones. Yeah, the small ones. Is is this what is I don't want to spoil

the something that you're going to say later, but is this an explanation for ball lightning? Yes. Yeah. Because the the what they do

they they have a a field-based propulsion system that is uh high energy. So what it does it it uh it it

um energizes the uh the gas molecules uh in the surrounding air around it around

the surface of the shell. Um, as a result, it glows. Um, it's the same mechanism as natural, uh, lightning uses

to create light during electric storms. So, we gave it that name because we just, it kind of looks like lightning

and it's shaped like a ball. And so, that's called it. That's right. But to this day, you'll get, well, it's

really anomalous. We really don't know what it is. We can't really explain it. We don't know where it comes from or where it goes. But you saw Paul

Lightning. Congratulations. But you're saying really, it's one of these. Yeah. And the the the most obvious

signature that it is is that bull lightning sticks hangs around for quite a while. Um while lightning just flashes

and goes away, right? It's because everything in nature operates in a state of flux.

You know, energy levels go, they drop and and then they boil away. While what you're seeing with ball lightning or

what they call ball lightning is is a constant um ball of light.

Yeah. Hangs out. Which means the only and because constant energy levels don't really exist in nature, the only thing

that can replicate that is through an artificial power source.

Excellent. So, as you can see here, this one here uh was taken in a field and it's just hovering just off the ground.

Yeah. This one here was taken in a British field uh just hovering off the ground. This one here was taken in 30 East Drive

just hovering off the ground. And these are the ones that's a small image. Um, these are the all the historical ones

what people are seeing throughout the time and that's that's what it is. It's the same object.

Sure looks like it, man. So then you have to ask yourself like so

why are these uh small spheres like operating in buildings? What would be the point of that? And why would they

perform physical actions? And uh why are people getting physically affected? because you probably watched a lot of

these ghost shows where people faint and feel sick and nauseous and they blame evil spirits and so forth. Well, so the

the truth is regardless of um how advanced the drone is, they always they use the three main functions to operate.

Uh and one it needs to send and receive signals uh two it needs a network and

three it needs AI. So AI is the key to repet repetitive actions as the door

banging itself. So as I say it's it's performing a process. Uh it see something happens it

performs a process and then it shuts down again. So this is why polygist activity is has

kind of been noticed that they all have the same behavior patterns around the world. They bang doors uh throwing

objects strange electrical effects catching fire on things. And that's because it's the same AI um it's the

same AI logic the same rules have been applied to all of them around the world. It's the same library of effects been

applied to all of them around the world. So the question is is you know if these are drones or praying in buildings

is it has anyone picked up the signals from them and the answer is yes. So right here.

So I managed to grab a digital sample of the signals that have been transmitted and it appears to be an 18 bit code.

You see here this here is the um this is the synchronization packet right here

or the synchronization bit and this one here is the synchronization bit and then this part here is the actual data

packet. And this is also recorded on tape as well. So, uh I can if you grab

or if I grab those links can show you it.

Okay, here we go. Now, this has been slowed down a bit so

you can hear it, but you can you can definitely hear them.

speed up a little bit.

Yeah, there's a pattern. Mhm.

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In the other video, it's much clearer. It's like a normal speed. You really hear that? Like,

that's that's pretty amazing. Let me Let me try the other one again. Yeah, if you just run that at normal

speed, you you're better.

See

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[Music]

It's like music.

Come on.

Find the door. Come on.

There you go. Stop.

Wow. Wow. Um, so moving people away

with these various types of distractions as you're saying

for because it would disrupt the signal or because it would harm the people.

Well, I can show you that in a second. Um, so we'll we'll go through that. So

this is the next slide. [Music]

So, what you really have, you have these small drones that are operating in buildings. Um, and what they appear to

be doing, they're like transponders. Uh, they're they basically sit in the building or fly around the building and no one's really aware they're there. Uh,

but they act like transponders. So, most of the time they they're shut down, but when they come online, they start uh

sending uh sending and receiving signals. uh and when those signals are being uh transmitted um that's when is

the have gamma radiation and microwave radiation uh so like all drones as I

said they need a network so I went looking for a network so what I did was I uh and in my new book I really pin it

down to where where it's all relaying but this one is a bit more simple just for this uh but what I noticed was that

the all these haunted locations are basically replicate our own pointto-point microwave based relay

systems. So what it is is similar distance apart and it operates around topology. So it's basically a a on

demand um ground near to groundbased data network.

So as these spheres will come online when they need to and start relaying data relaying it across the country and

then it shuts down again literally across the country side like

the near to the to the earth itself. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to interject something

real quick if if I can or kind of not diverge too much but the point is we're talking about what has always been

understood by humans as poltergeist like you're saying or haunting

um activity which has always been basically been chocked up to some kind of spirit right

um because we didn't know how else to put it basically right how else do you explain such things um and in my line of

work I mean I have been called into homes

saying this is happening I have a haunted situation right or I have a

something weird has been happening in my house I need you to come take care for this as a as a Christian, you know, like

an exorcist basically, like you need to come deal with this. Um, so I have, you

know, but when I get there, I don't really see anything out of the ordinary. I pray over it. I do um what I've been

trained to do and and what I think I should do and help the people, try to calm them. But um it's what you're

saying and not only saying, this is what I want to drive home to folks who are who are watching this now is you're not

just saying things, you're showing things. Mhm. You you tested things repeatedly. You've

taken different types of measurements. You're showing in different ways, photos, data, you're listening, you're

hearing signals, all these different types of ways to show. You don't just have a theory. You're showing why you

believe X, Y, and Z. And that's really important. Number one. And number two,

what you're doing is you're upsetting the apple cart, okay, of of not only the

the kind of the Christian or religious worldview of these are demonic spirits,

but also of the spiritists or or what have you, the haunted house, these are just dead people who are can't get peace

and want to go home to the afterlife or they were murdered and there's some kind of violent stone memory or whatever,

right? um you're you're upsetting all of that. And like you mentioned before or

earlier, this is a billion-dollar industry that works. So, no one wants to get that upset. Number one, um but you

this is a big deal. Again, from my point of view, from a from a a Christian point of view, like it's possible that not

maybe every case, but a lot of times potentially now we're talking about what

we think is a spiritual or you know, demonic problem isn't. It's actually a technological problem

with another uh set of rules and and explanations and uh um you know, who's

behind it all. Correct. That's a big deal. That's a really big deal.

Yeah. So, I I just want to say like I'm I'm willing to go there with you. Like I'm willing to be upset because it's true.

I'm after the truth. So, anyway, I just wanted to throw that in there. And the people who are with me in this in my

audience, I want to, you know, bring you along and say, listen, it just this is

possible. Let's just follow Patrick here and see what he has and see the evidence

that he's presenting and see where it goes. And also uh just to mention uh 30 East

Drive has been uh has had priests there throughout the years and never never

gets rid of it. Well, that's the I mean honestly as as a as an you know from an exorcism or or Christian point of view, if you if that

if it is a spiritual problem and you have an exorcism, they don't come back. I mean like if if that's it, it's over.

there's not going to be a revisiting or oh darn that didn't work 10 times later right that shouldn't it shouldn't ever

come back but being that it is we got to look for another explanation anyway yes very good point

and also just to mention um in the UK uh there is 1,800 people who die every day

and yet the the from what I can tell paranormal activity does not increase or decrease

right the same buildings are active the same amount the same locations it's not Like

I hear, oh, you know, 10 under buildings have become active this week, right? More people are dying than in the

past. You you would think there would be more hauntings or whatever, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Doesn't matter. So, this is where it gets a bit more interesting. So, going back to the door banging, um,

you got to say, okay, well, what's going on there? All right. So if you look at the measurements as I said on the

stairway uh and you can you're picking up a high energy source uh which is moving around and what comes and goes uh

that is right here. This is a a map of the building and right here on the ground floor at the top base of the

stairs is where you're getting the emissions the this uh high energy emissions. Right here is where the coal

shed door is was banging. Okay. Now, if these if this thing is producing gamma

radiation and microwave radiation, what it's doing is moving you to the most safest part of the building, the most

shielded part of the building before it can transmit. So, what it does, it bangs the coal shed

door. Everybody in the building goes running down to see what's going on here, and then it can transmit. And as a

result, it's got one, two, three, four walls to absorb the radiation.

I see. So, it's trying to get you to look into that noise to get away from where it actually is.

Yeah. It's it's clearing the space. It's attracting you to areas or or it either uh tries some clear you out the space

directly or it'll will try and uh it'll make a noise to attract you to it.

Right. And and I've seen some more violent examples too. Oh, yeah. Some videos of being more direct. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's because it's down to I mean I I was in 30th drive one the first night as well and uh there were marbles

ricocheting off the walls and and going by my face like this. Uh and again it's

because of the urgency of the transmission. If it wants to clear the space quickly then it uses direct actions. If it if it can it will give

you indirect actions which is what that is. So it's it's an AI based as I say this is the evidence of artificial

intelligence because it's measuring the distance location where you are and say go down there move now and the thing is

I didn't move. So this was banging and I didn't move. Everybody everybody else was ran down there and I was the last

one to come and within I think it was like two days later my brain started swelling in my head. I got like this

weird brain swelling going on in my skull and I couldn't see anything. And um what

that actually comes down to is effects of gamma radiation. [Music]

So you also uh I think this is also connected to spontaneous human combustion as well. So if you're if

you're standing too close to this or you don't take notice of the actions and this thing has to relay then you're

talking high energy gamma radiation or microwave radiation or and basically you

just you just get popped.

That's it. I Yeah, folks, you're gonna you're gonna He touches on a lot of

stuff in this. Okay. The spontaneous human combustion, ball lightning, uh

hitchhiker effect. I'm sure we'll get to that. Oh, yeah. All this weird stuff, man. And it can all be related to these little little

guys. So, yeah. This is another example. This is taken off a video off YouTube of a of a a group of guys that went into a

building and got had polygist effects going on around them. And look what they they spotted on on Yassic.

A small silver sphere. That's what that is. Look at that.

And there are they are are they choosing I'm sure you I know you talk about in the book. Are they choosing structures

basically not abandoned but with the least

possible interference? That's why they're so what I can tell they use anything that can shield the emissions and also

it depends where the network needs to go. So like just like our own cellular network like sometimes you'll have uh

houses with a a cell cell tower next to them you know so it depends on where the network is and where the network has to

go. Uh but most of the time I I think that they they will use anything from

under underneath tunnels to caves to holes in the ground. Um, but when it

roots through urban areas, they choose buildings. Um, and that's why these

hauntings like 30 years drive has been active for 40, 50 years, you see, and it's because it's a it's a

like a hard node. It's locked deep in the network. It can't move. And that's why that's what it is. Um,

yeah. Got it. That's what it is. And that's that's why some hauntings don't go away and some do is because some part of the networks are

more dynamic. they can move, but other parts are more rigid depending on where they are. And what I noticed was that

depending on the building type um will uh will uh specify where they where

they're going to transmit from inside the building. So like in in modern houses or like twostory brick houses,

they'll they operate generally on top floor in either in the attic or the top floor. Uh in in America, you have these

um like single wooden houses, single floor wooden houses. Uh and you have a

basement. Well, guess what? They they operate in a basement. So, there was a there was a story um I think it was uh

Zack Ban. He did a documentary called Demon House, which is exactly exactly that kind of building. uh and uh they

took a a I think it was an electrical engineer to have a look at it and he

went into the basement and he said, "Oh yeah, there's a moving high energy source here. I don't know what it is." You know, and very I think it was like

the next day he was in hospital with multiple organ failure. It's because this thing's relaying signals and it's it's relaying, you

know, these emissions and it's highly dangerous. Unfortunately, the production company just blame demons and and move

to the next one and do the whole thing again. Wow. But the problem is is that the um that

guy has probably now got issues for life. And this that's the problem uh that we're now facing.

So the interesting thing is is that there's a scientist Jim Seigala um he was conducting tests as well um

completely separate from me and he was putting sensors inside these buildings um and this is what he picked up.

He was on the the skinwalker ranch the first uh season. Correct. I think so. Yeah.

Here he is. Here. So, in uh in um 30 drive, we picked up gamma radiation and

microwave bursts and also we picked up 1.6 GHz 1.72. Exactly the same things

are picking up at Skinwalker. Um and this is exactly what um Jim also picked

up. I don't know about the gigahertz, but what you're picking up is microwave and gammaray bursts.

that. So when they when they're communicating, is that the the bandwidth they're you the band they're using?

It sounds to be some sort of carrier wave of some sort.

So when you look at the physical effects of gamma radiation um it's nausea or vomiting uh fatigue, tiredness,

headaches, dizziness, fainting, uh skin redness, decreased appetite, weakness or

lethargy, cognitive impairment, all of which is what people get inside haunted

houses. In fact, the the neighbor of um of 30

East Drive, she gets um migraines all the time. And I said to her, "Do they go

when you leave the house and go somewhere else?" Oh, yes. They vanish. Then she goes back in the house again

and gets migraines just because it's the signals the microwaves giving her

headaches. Yeah, that makes that makes too much sense. Yeah.

And yeah, this is the this is what I had. Um when I when I was in the place, I had brain swelling. I had vision

issues, cognitive issues. Uh that lasted for about 6 months 6 months. It was really bad. uh my thought process had

changed. Uh I'm normally quite a fluid thinker and fast and stuff, but I was actually really brittle and I was

actually really uh short-tempered, aggressive. Um and over the years, other people reported the same thing. Uh

including fainting, nausea, difficult thinking, and again, it's all it's all down to radiation exposure.

And this is because you were stubborn and wouldn't run to the door. Didn't move. Yeah. Yeah. So what it is is that these small um

these type three spheres as I call them about the size of a baseball they create a dynamic microwave based data network

that can move to its needs. So it's dynamic. So that's why some buildings will suddenly become active overnight

and then stop and never again while other buildings are are active all the

time and never leave you know sent for decades. So it depends on how rigid the

network is in particular areas. So the building itself how it models out

is the building itself um absorbs the electronic signatures these things are producing. So from this from the the sky

uh this network because it also burst relays as well. It only comes online when it needs to. Anything that's coming

into our sky high up in the sky when it looks down it cannot detect the network.

You understand? So it's it's actually it's it blends in with background radiation. Mhm.

So the very stealthy communication network that uses burst tree laying and then shuts down again. So

what that means is it's a very yeah very stealthy AI based uh data network

uh which is all over the UK, all over America, all over the world.

And this is also why like the the mainstream paranormal researchers have

got absolutely nowhere in 80 years. They think it's dead people and it's not.

You see? So this is you you can kind of imagine the frustration I get from their from their

communities. Right. You can Yeah. Although and maybe I'm sure you'll

perhaps touch on this. you you do mention you there is a point where that that with the EVP process and stuff that

those folks tend to use you actually did uh get communication

right told you to what what was it like go away or stay away yeah go away yeah what it does is uh in

EVPs what what it really is is it's a that the spheres can sample ambient

noises or sounds and then re uh and then uh reconstruct them to

sentences. So the the first sentence might be uh from from a daytime TV show

like you must leave but the three so it just it blends it all together. But when you actually

really look at this look at it record if you get record a really good one and you really look at it you'll see how it's

all blended together um because it has errors in it. It it has errors. It has

processing errors. It has pops and clicks and all sorts of things. So this right here, what you're looking at is

the um the sphere network model that I gave Senator Gillibrand about a year before the uh UAP hearings in America.

Uh as I said in the beginning, we're all going to get meetings and stuff and then it all went quiet and then when the meet

when the the event finally happened, they were talking about the Sears, which is kind of interesting to me. Anyway, um

and what you have, you have the type threes, which are about the size of baseballs right down here.

These ones here, these are the, as I said, the microwave based communication network, the dynamic relay systems, uh

transponders, they turn on and off. They move around, use AI. Then you have the type two spheres, which are much larger.

Basically the same technology, but made bigger and more powerful, you know. So,

you have the type twos. Uh these are the ones that are seen over um over street

levels, you know, above the above the trees and above the buildings. Um they

were over Iraq. That's what was shown in the UAP hearings in America and over I

think it was yeah over Iraq I think or Afghanistan. And then what happens is they they what

they do is they take the weak signal from here and then because that's why they're low to the ground because

they're talking to this network here because it's a low energy signal and then what they do is they boost that

signal to um or that data link to a much higher energy level which then goes up

to type 1B formations which are much higher in the sky. And these are the triangles that everyone's seeing in the

sky right now. So let me by the way the the the what what you're

calling a type two these middle le lower level but still in the sky guys tree top

level basically right that's what I saw and and when I read in your book that I

even quoted it here uh few hundred feet above the ground frequently remain

stationary in the air at a single location for extended periods before swiftly relocating.

That's right. That's exactly what I It was there. It was above a highway. It was middle of

the day. It was silver metallic looking thing. Just hanging out about bird

height, you know, where birds are flying. That's right. Sitting there, middle of a highway,

nothing else going on. And then gone. That's right. All that's all it was. And like, okay,

that's it. So I've sent you um four examples um yep videos and you can all

see them in my my X. So yeah over um over areas of high

topology like hills and mountains because this is a line of sight system the spheres have to work around it. So

in order to keep the the the signal low they will operate just above the tree line and then there'll be one at the top

of the hill or the mountain and then there'll be one down the bottom. So it it basically ground hugs and and roots

the signal over that way. There it is.

And he's gone. Okay. All right. Let's look at number two.

And again, you see it's over a mountainous area. So, it's it's heading over to the top of the mountains.

You can actually see the trail uh or where it's going, how the propulsion system interacts with the atmosphere,

right? Well, yeah. Little puff or a or silhouette or something.

Yeah. Wow. Yep. That's so commonly seen now, isn't

it? Mhm. It's like a lensing effect on the uh on the atmosphere, right? Even around the

around it, right? Yeah. That's the that's the byproduct of the propulsion system is producing atomic light.

Awesome. All right. And let's look at number three.

Yeah. So, this one's chasing an A-10. Yeah. Or at least having fun with it.

By the way, nothing should be chasing an A-10. They call it the tank killer.

And there's uh one final link that I will drop in there. Um because the

spheres also do a thing called daisy chaining. So, it's like a networking term. So, what it means is you'll have

one here and then another one here and another one here. And depending on the distance between the type twos uh and a

type three like because the type three is a day network at the bottom, right? So this will only go so far and then it

has to link across the sky or or up and it might go up five miles each link, but it needs that link or daisy chain

upwards. And this is what you'll see. This is uh this is that in progress right here.

Here it is. What the [ __ ] Excuse us.

Yeah, we're all thinking it though.

Yo, look at it go. Boing. He's out. Yeah. Right. So, you

got you got a chain like you say to uh Yeah, like like a multiplier. That's right. Yeah. So, if we go to the

next slide. So, this was actually for a paper I wrote for Stanford University. Um this is a type three too. This is a a

picture of one which is a over a treetop. Um gives the size approximately between 30 to 50 uh centimeters in

diameter. Um observes a daisy train daisy chain around environmental

elevations such as hills and mountains. Uh the pattern suggests that they might be using a line of sight microwave based

communication network to walk to coordinate with the other spheres and view formations.

If you see if someone sees these, does that automatically mean the the V

formation is somewhere around or not necessarily? Yes, it does. Yeah. Yeah. So, this one's

a type one V formations. These the largest of the of the group. Uh and right now they in that configuration

they are in vertical configuration which means it's like a triangle that's fixed and it was up on its side like this. And

uh as you can see it's surrounding this um the aircrafts. So what what this is

you see is it's an AI based system AI based defense network and what it does is it it triggers on anomalies in the

sky. So things like um like air shows is

a prime example of that and you'll see these things all the time at air shows because it triggers the AI because it's

out of place um out of out of place uh flight behavior. So that's uh so in this

case it's basically checking up what these things are and then it will just go away again. But in that in that V formation the

target is dead center. So where wherever the center of the of the V is that's where that's where it's aiming.

Is is that why your is that your theory as to the HU fighters um in the time

period that they showed up is because we basically hadn't had an air war before

potentially. Yeah. It's out of place behavior. So they they were looking into what was going on. Right. Okay.

So, this is where it gets a bit more interesting. So, this is um so the first formation was where the triangle was up

on its side and in this formation the triangle's flat. And what you have you have the the type two which is over

here. Then you have the type one V formation right here. And this was actually taken over Italy where you have

the type two right there and there's one V formation and you have another type two right right here

for another V formation. So it works out like for every every uh single uh type two is is required for one uh cluster of

three. So and in this configuration what it's doing is tracking an object directly above and I'll show you the

mathematics of how that works in a minute.

So this is where it gets really cool. So if you get this if you I know people won't really understand this but if you

take a screenshot of it and put it through AI it'll explain exactly what's going on here. So what this is this is

down here is the type two sorry the type 3es in the buildings data network. It then links up to the type two here then

daisy chains to another type two wherever the V formation is then it goes the V formation is right here and then

it's looking at the target. Now what this thing is doing is a thing called trilateration which is a mathematical

process uh to track objects in 3D space. So by right by the formation it's

producing you can reverse engineer mathematically what it's doing.

So right here what it's doing is this V formation. If you read up here

it says it's doing um a calculation to track this target

in a 2D format. So this is doing 2D tracking and then the the one at the

rear here is doing distance tracking. And when you combine all this data together, you get 3D tracking in space.

So it it basically creates a very high resolution targeting system in space.

Very effective one too. And because it's using microwaves and it's line of sight is near undetectable.

What is the role? Explain to me what the role of the the one on the ground is to

this system then. So the type three that's the one in the buildings. Mhm. So this is the data network. So this

would be linking across the country to others other to wherever it gets controlled from. So from what I can tell

this is controlled from the ground up meaning that the control uh centers for this is is based on the ground.

They detect the targets. No, no, no. They're just a data network.

So the the these they communicate. Yeah. Yeah. So they that's like a mesh of um of relays on the ground. Loads of

like cell towers like you were saying. Like cells. Yeah. Okay. So whatever the sphere is up in the atmosphere will detect the target and

then it will communicate down to type three and then it will figure out how to intercept it. I see. They'll then it'll then go for it

modeling AI processing modeling and all that stuff just like our own air defense systems the brain

and then yeah then it'll come up with like an execution package which will then surround the the target with with

um with spheres and what I can tell it takes about 45 seconds to execute

though it is very fast and this is a hypersonic system as well so these

spheres are flying around at you know mac 2 mac 4 something like that oh you yeah there's a lot videos about

that. I mean, you can just see them. They're crazy imperceptibly fast.

So, if we look at this one here, just some examples. This is like a replication example. This was taken off

uh the UK coast and you can see here you got the type 1 B formation and the type two at the back. And when they're

glowing up, that means they're in a high energy state, which means they're active basically using a lot. they're using

their, you know, um, the trilateration to the max, uh, to start tracking

objects. This one here, this one here was taken in June 1971 in Canada. And, uh, what

you see here is a type two right here. And then you have the type 1 V formation right here.

Yeah. And this is before, you know, internet and this is before fast computers and networking and stuff. So when people say

that this is like a we reverse engineered this stuff and it's crap because to replicate this requires so

many layers of technology that we simply cannot do. You're talking energy systems, networking systems, AI systems,

all this combined together to create what you're seeing. And this we can't even replicate this today. So um we

can't even replicate the power systems that these things are using. Uh because some of the spheres out there are

literally this big. They're this big. And yet their energy system, whatever they're using, seems well, it certainly

isn't petrol. You know what I mean? And it certainly it's it's it's something very very

exotic. Right. Here's here's other examples that get sent into me. So this was taken over a

house. I think it was in Florida. Again, you have the type 1 V formation right here. Type two relay here. Microwave

link. And the target direction is this way. You can always you always know where the target is from the position of the type two because it's looking

directly at it and the the V formation is tracking the 2D. So because of this is more vulnerable than this. This is

always kept behind the V formation. Okay. So wait a minute. I'm going to bring it back to my personal experience

because so if if if this thing was basically over my head. I'm driving in a

car so it's basically over me. So is are you saying that there was a target basically directly over my car?

say upwards. Yeah. Up. Yeah. Going up. Yeah. Over. Great. Fantastic.

In fact, mathematically you can determine the distance as well because uh on the equations depending on the

distance of the the type one spheres, the wider they are, the further the the target and the closer they are, the the

closer the target. I gota I didn't see any of those. Yeah. Yeah. It works out to be I think it's

like uh I think it's like one I think it's like a the 100 meters equals one

kilometer. So if they're 100 meters apart then the target is one kilometer away. The the the triangular guys being closer

or farther. How far apart can the the type ones and type twos be that you've seen?

They they can go I think they can go very very far. Um, I I'm not sure exactly, but uh I it could be could be

maybe a few miles apart. Okay, great. So cool.

Here again, you see the same formation, type 1 V formation, the type two at the back, and here you even see the saucer

is chasing. Now that's There you go. I mean, that's the stuff. Where is that from? I can't I

forget Oh, that was I think that was I can't quite read that. I think it's Spanish, isn't it?

Somewhere. And then this one here below, this one below was taken by a friend of mine. He

uh took it off a off a cruise ship and it was just above the ocean. Now, why now? I've done a cruise ship a

couple months ago. Why? Why didn't I get that shot? Anyway, as you can see, it's exactly the same

formation, exactly the same triangle at the front and the back.

So, this is another one. This is over Barcelona in Spain. So again, you've got the type twos here relaying across here

and then up to the type one v formation which then means a target is up here 1:00.

Then this is more examples. This is all in my book. I got really good examples in the book. This like a screenshot. So

this one here, this is all the same. All the same formations is all different parts of the world, all over the world,

different times. And again, you see the same V type one type one V formation and

the type two at the rear. This is what I'm trying to relate to folks. This is the same pattern over and

over and over and over and over and over. This betresses the point

and the what when someone's trying to present an uh a point of view. This is

what gives it gravity and should make us think more than just

well that sounds good or I agree with that or I don't agree with that. Well, that's fine, but show me the show me the

money, right? Like this is it over and over again, plain as day over many locations, over

many years, right? This is what we should demand to say, okay, this is

valid. And this this these patterns are the key to disclosure.

Once people figure this out, this is disclosure.

Well, it's the most obvious kind. I mean, I mean, the most obvious

to u to get. Mhm. It's just there. And uh so,

as I said, these things are doing 3D tracking in space. So, what are they doing? They're doing this.

So, this was filmed in my back garden. And uh you see these you see the movement up here. See all these movement

up here? and here. Yeah. And you see what these flashes deeper than this is real high up in space. It's

not a plane or anything. This is you can barely see it on your night scope. Um,

and what that is is explosions in space. Each explosion is a target being

destroyed. Somebody's active up there.

Let's watch it again. Each of the each of these little flashes you're saying there's an explosion. Yeah.

You can see like the And they're all in different places basically. Yeah. So there's a bunch of targets up there.

Bunch of them. Yeah. Wow. Now if you put it on freeze frame, if you go back for a second and I'll show

you something interesting. Okay. Freeze it. Freeze it here. Now people look at this

right here and they just see stars. Right. But what I see because uh I look

at data and patterns and what I see is V formations everywhere like here here you got one here you got one here

and you got one here you got one here again what you have is concise triangles

of equal distance apart of equal brightness and when I see that I that is that

matches the type 1 V formations just bigger versions of them and what we've done is we've misidentified these

patterns as stars. If you didn't know any better, right,

you're just looking up, you're seeing lights. Yep. Wow. Just right there.

And I show you this video. Um, so when you look closely here, planet over there.

So, first you see the spheres come flying in. See them that planet over there. Little dots.

See it? Right there. Mhm.

Not sure what's going on here. That's weird. A 10-in light bridge made

by Miade. I'm going to be filming that planet just

right there. Okay, now check this out. I've never seen this before, and I'm

actually surprised my phone's doing this, but check this out.

Now, if you freeze it, oh my god, it blew up. What the You see the triangle?

Yeah. And that's in horizontal configuration, which means the target is below or above, which is exactly

two dots to the left and then the one to the right. That's correct. Yep.

Look at that. That's a heck of an explosion, man. And that's what you're seeing. That's what those flashes are,

right? Right. from your video. The the flash video is actually this.

That's this. Hell, something just blew the hell up. Some It

was orbiting and now it blew up and it's in outer space and it's no longer there.

H Do we know how where exactly this was or like how how distant this was?

No idea. Um I assume it's up in up in atmosphere. He said it was a planet, but I have a

feeling it's a lot closer. [Music] That's That's awesome. That's amazing.

So, this is happening. These explosions are happening, I would say, most most nights in the sky and people just don't

notice them. And this is that's the truth is that so we we basically have a

a defense network which is AI based which is intercepting external groups pretty much non-stop externally. Um,

yeah. So, what I done was I I uh I thought I'd push my my chances a little

bit and I came up with my own dog whistle um as uh

other groups have like Skywatcher and so forth, but they keep it all proprietary to themselves. So, I just thought I'd

release one to the public so they can see what's going on. All right, let's see. So

yeah, I have sent you the link. So this was tested by a third party.

This wasn't me. And that's not playing. And it's flashing on my phone.

There's another one there. Look where it's right there. That one, didn't it?

That one's going there. That's moving now. Yeah, I told you that one. Thank you.

Another one. Loads of them. Watch. See if they make a triangle formation.

Yeah. Look. One, two, three over the house. That's

See, that one's moving and then it stops and then it moves again. We got one, two, three, four. That move.

Another one. Where? Oh, yeah. Straight up. Left in between them two big ones.

Straight up. Oh god. Where did that come from? They're all [ __ ] moving. That wasn't

doing that till I put that on. Am I right? Yeah. Other one over. Is that one moving over there? Dude, it stopped until the other one

passed it. Look. So, we pick their stars and they're not

[Music] Look at Oh my god.

Orange one. Look straight up. Straight up. Needless to say, stars don't do that stuff.

No. Then people think they were stars and they're not. Oh, man. That's crazy. And if you look at the again, if you

look at the brightness of them, you'll notice the brightness will all match. So, you got three or four objects with

the same brightness, the same size. It's just two of them aren't moving and the third one is right. Wow.

So, that's it. That's the end of my presentation. Um, how how are you drawing or what what is

the whistle? So, I figured out I mean I figured out the this code about five years ago. um

is actually I I used it in the buildings first to trigger the type 3 in the buildings. Um

but what I noticed was was that the the type 3es were also being seen in fields making crop circles and in one of the

crop circles was a binary code and I uh it was actually decoded by a British mathematician. Um, and what I did was I

just copied the code and it's a computer language and then I put my own commands into it and then put into a binary code

and then I put it on app and I put it into a 30 drive to test it and suddenly

the whole place goes goes crazy and all the EMFs were going off and everything responsive and it all it became

interactive um straight away and then people started testing it in the sky uh

just against you know out in the open and they said they started seeing stars moving. Uh, so I thought, okay, well,

let me improve it, update it a bit cuz I that app was a few years old, so I updated it, gave it a new JA guey. Um,

made it a little bit better and it was released this week and already people are emailing me saying, "Yeah, it's

working. We're seeing crazy stuff." So, we'll see. I mean, see what happens. Um,

that's pretty amazing, man. So, uh, a couple of things I just wanted to my

notes here. I just wanted to bring up because it um struck me while reading it.

Um this there's a link. What is the link between because you kind of mentioned it

in passing but I showed it to my friend. We're like what AI and 666.

Oh yeah. So in the buildings um some like in 30 East drive and other haunted

areas things will start showing the number 666 um on temperature meters on c

on um on cameras sometimes you know weird glitches stuff like that and what

it what it comes down to is um from what I can tell is uh 666 is a um triangular

number and it's used in AI so it's it's kind of like saying the

system is armed. Okay. And it just so happens to be your the

formation of your type one also. System is armed. You know, that makes

sense to me. It's kind of it kind of like makes it in my mind. It's like Yeah. It's it's kind of like a visual um notification that

system is armed. Yeah. That's it. Wow. And over the years, you know, people have have thought this is like evil

spirits and and and so forth. Well, if you see right, if you go in with that impression and then you see

666 on your on your air conditioner or whatever, you might think, well, I guess I was

right. Uh, but that that is something to think about. It's like you're talk you have a picture of it. It's like a giant number

grid basically in a in a triangle shape. Apparently that's a method to like what

you call fuzzy numbers and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. uh fuzzy uh fuzzy logic or something is I can't remember my head

that's above my head for sure. I math is not my subject. Um hitchhiker effect. So

is that basically the small orbs or uh spheres going off you?

Uh yeah. So, um, what I what I noticed when I was doing the test at 30 East Drive, there was a

there's a a few guys I heard about who stole, um,

stones off the driveway. They took them home and as like a souvenir and their

their home become active, really bad. And it was so bad that they actually sent it back in the post with a letter

of apology. Would you believe I couldn't even believe it until I saw I actually saw it. I was like, "Oh my god." But what

what it is I mean from what I can tell how this works is that these spheres are

are cause contamination of some sort of radiological contamination. So imagine

like um a a new type of radiation that we're not aware of or we can't detect and what it does it contaminates the

ground and the buildings. Uh it contaminates uh items in the buildings including beds anything anything within

the vicinity of these objects. So whenever these object whenever sorry whenever these um these contaminated

objects get moved to a new location the spheres will detect that and then go in

there and say right keep away from it and they'll cause poltergeist like effects around it until people get rid

of it. And this actually this has happened in history like um there was a a family um it's actually mentioned in

my first book um that bought a bed for like a bunk bed secondhand bunk bed and

they put it in their bedroom for the children and the children started screaming and saying they're hearing voices and weird things were going on in

their room and so forth and uh so the parents stayed in the room and yeah they saw exactly the same thing. It really

freaked the family out. So they burnt they got rid of the bed and burnt it and guess what? It all stopped and it's

because the bed is contaminated and the voice haunted, right? Basically. Yeah.

Contamin. Okay. So it basically you're just saying this is a your your theory would say it's because it's a it's a

machine uh reaction. Um you're that's my

um job is to is to protect you from that stuff or you know make a clear path with

that. Yeah. Get away from that. Yeah. And in fact, I think in in history, I think like occult groups have

noticed this pattern before because what they do is they, you know, like um they

used to put curses on people and stuff like that back in the old days. Uh and what they would do is take

objects from haunted buildings and and put them under your house or in the walls and stuff like that. And then

suddenly their house becomes active and you know with evil spirits and so forth. It's just a sphere trying to tell you to

get away. That's what it was. Right. So they you they utilize again they were under the wrong impression but it's the

same effect. Same effect. Yeah. Wow. Uh okay. Over here. So what

you kind of touch on right at the end of the book is is the explanation behind Okay. So we've got the tech

what do you call the the small spheres or the the holy grail of of of

technology. Mhm. Um, who's doing it and why?

Who is a good question. I don't know. Um, but all I can tell you is that um it

appears to be groundbased. So, whoever whoever um owns the spheres

lives underground because all the architecture must be underground. All the all the uh or

inside mountains uh it must be hidden in plain sight like that. In fact, I think

Skinwalker is one of those locations because when they dig down 500 meters or 500 feet, they're finding what appears

to be artificial uh structures or materials which would be maybe part of a

underground facility. So, in order people say people think that this

network is like an ancient system that has been just hanging around, but it's not. It's fully up to date and it's

fully uh adaptive. um and it has to be because to deal with new threats. So what I what I also

noticed what's also in the book itself is um the tic tac and how that plays a

part in all of this as well. So what what it appears to be is because the spheres and the tic tac are actually

seen flying together in formation. And so what they appear to be doing is the

um the type ones uh or or when when you have a an object that gets close to the

ground, gets close to Earth, that means that that object is more advanced than the others

because the low tech ones get taken out from a distance, but the the more advanced ones and more stealthy ones get

closer. They can get through the network down to uh near the ground level. when they hit the ground level or low to

ground, the the spheres will swarm them and disable them and they land on the ocean and that's when the tic tac comes

along and it will take it out the ocean. It will literally pick it up and take it out the ocean and fly it away. And it's

using a thing called um uh quantum um

oh gosh quantum locking, right? which means it's like a it's it's a quantum effect that

uh it uses a high energy field that in a super with a superconductor and it locks onto the craft itself and it'll just

pick it up and fly it out like a magnet basically and there's a picture in the book of it carrying a flying saucer on on it on its

base as well. Uh and so that one will go off for analysis to see how it

penetrated the network and then once they figure out how that works they tighten up the logic and

tighten up the AI. Now obviously this this that comports 100% with the famous

Tic Tac story and you know video that we have from the US military.

That's right. Yeah. Because they said it was on it was over the water and there was something under the water. Correct. And that's the part a lot of

people either don't know or don't bother to say, which is that it was hovering over the water was stirred up and and

what and there was something under the water and the sonar confirms that and it was doing something with another object.

And you're saying it was basically trying to gather it up. It didn't its buddies knocked it down

and trying to extract it and take it away. That's right.

Again, makes sense. That makes sense. Did you have this thought formed before

these videos came out or after? No. No. I I spotted this a few years

ago. Um it's just that I've been gathering a bit more data before I published it. Uh

because it would be really something if if like before 20 Oh, I guess that came out in 2017.

Um yeah, it must it must have been around 2017. It was a few years ago. Still point is like it's not Lheed

Martin. No, no, no. Yeah. So, we agree on that 100%. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

Okay. Oh gosh. Great. I don't get that either. So, but to to

your point, the Tic Tac is not an ancient thing either. It's a this is one of

these uh like an upgrade or or or or a new device to deal with uh more current

things. That's right. And that's why um you know like that uh case where the something

landed in the back of someone's yard in Vegas. Yes, of course. They said they saw these big guys

walking around and you can actually see the imprint of the object that landed. Yes.

Imprint. Well, it disappeared. So, it didn't if it crashed, it's not going to fly off again.

So, something came down, picked it up, and extracted it. Something did something with it. Yeah.

Right. What about the beings? What did they deal with them too?

I assume so. I mean, that that's a whole can of worms. I I don't know too much about that. Human jail?

All I I have no idea. All all I can say is is that it's a we have a very tight

defense network that surrounds the earth and uh it's it's it seems to be in a lot

of use. Uh in fact the problem is is that um we we're part

of the problem because we are producing high energy signals that are going into space. All our radio, television,

signaling, everything basically. Yeah. So we are broadcasting our location to trillions and trillions of

solar systems and all and logically if you think about it survival long-term survival of the human race probably

isn't that isn't that uh high because we are we are um all it takes is for one

group out there to say oh we want something you have and they'll come and

get it. Mhm. And I think right now I mean according to what they say our signaling and our

emissions have reached about 100 light years. Uh and if already we are seeing a lot of incoming traffic uh like my video

showed with like 20 odd explosions going off in the sky. We have attracted a lot of attention

and and you you do kind of hypothesize you have a photo of what you would call

an ultraterrestrial. someone who uh you're saying shares the planet

with us and they're underground somewhere or another hiding out um and

they maybe predate us or maybe you are even more involved

with uh yeah um well when when you model it out it kind of makes sense. So you have

if you have a a ultra high intelligence that lives here on earth somewhere or a group of them that live here underground

uh underground is a great place to be because you can probably build an environment just as nice as as the surface of the earth but underground but

also you can control the access points. So it's a very good defense mechanism.

Uh then you have the sphere network up in the up in the sky and up maybe up in space. Uh so you have a that's the first

two layers of defense. You have the sphere network and then you have the sphere network that's in the atmosphere. But then you have us. So we are the

third line of defense. We are the upgraded primates that will are very

good at violence. Just in case there the planets invaded

just in case something happens. Yeah. Uh is it possible and you don't touch on this at all but just your thoughts. Is

it possible that this other civilization is also under the oceans? Um uh and

maybe even the moon most likely they're actually there. Not just using

it, but they're actually there. Yeah, mostly. Yeah. Yeah. Mostly. Okay.

Great. They work crazy together. Um Okay. One last one last thing. You you

mentioned the energy when the when the spheres are going into action. Basically, that's when they're lit up

like right on and they get colorful uh or at least some kind of light. Um

but there's different kinds of lights. People see different uh colors. That's right. Um and you do kind of get into that u

it's basically it's like you get into it. It's almost like lightning give based on the gas or the you know um what

it's electrifying it becomes a different color. Yeah. It's basically the different frequencies of of the field and also the

gas that is passing through at the time. Do they choose what color to be?

Um I would say well generally no. I mean it depends on the environmental factors but I have seen them glow red and blue

and green. So it's almost like a a traffic light system of some sort. Uh so they must be able to to pick and choose

the colors that they want to use. But they're all atomic colors. That's what I mean. that the colors produced by

energizing the gas molecules in in our atmosphere uh that uh produce a

particular colors, right? So they they don't have the choice of any color they want. These specific ones like Yeah.

Yeah. So you you know I'm sure that like the calm Keller if you see a blue one run like hellation.

Yeah, I've heard of that. Yeah. Yeah. The probably the safest point is when they're not glowing at all, like daytime, when they're just like in low

power state, just cruising over the roads. So basically any color is probably not

safe to be around. Probably not. No, cuz they're in high they're in a high energy state, which means they're broadcasting and receiving

high energy signals. I I understand. Okay. So like I have a I have an acquaintance, a friend in in

Colorado, uh down the street, not in her house, but it was, you know, down the

road one night. She saw one and she just described it as as an orb because it was

lit up and it was a single thing and about like the size we're talking about and and whatever and

just thought it was really beautiful and just kind of hung out for a while and then it was gone and that was that and

uh and it was yellow or gold you know type of color. So,

she was asking me, you know, what and on to bring up, but you're just saying basically it was it was awake and and at

work. That would be your answer. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the the paranormal community kind of

emotional um explanation, which is like the different

colors mean different feelings or different uh Yeah. things like that. And that's just

garbage. It's um it's atomic light which is produced by

high energy emissions from the sphere itself. It's so I mean like we're saying it's possible that they could be at a

different state of uh communicating or they're at an energy of something or

other but it's basically just means they're on they're active they're doing something they're transmitting something they're they're working.

Don't get too close. I've also seen them cloak as well. So they can cloak, which means that they can bend light around them, so they're

not visible. Um, but what it appears to be is that depending on what mode or state they're operating in, um, has an effect on their

abilities. So they might be cloaked, but they might not be able to broadcast signals.

You know what I mean? So it's when they're in one mode, it might prevent other other capabilities. And then when

they're glowing and bright, it probably means that they can do whatever they want, right? Fully fully active or whatever.

Okay. Uh, wow. I think I think that's all of the things that I had. Um, I love

it, man. Uh, I think it's really important. I know you're you're if if if you don't sell yourself, no one else is

going to do it, right? So, like I I understand that. I totally get it. I w you know, Brandon

Fugal and like all these the our government I wish my government would listen to to what you have to say. Maybe

they have already. Maybe the maybe they already processed it and and have gone

beyond it and doing something about who knows probably. Who knows? Um, one thing I will say

though is that all these hearings, US hearings that they're doing is a waste of time. Uh, getting getting information

out the government is a waste of time and it's it's actually to do with the way that um, uh, security works on the

computers. So like um when when they say they're going to open up a new project or new uh yeah like a new project or new

you know investigation something like that all it really means is that they've got a a new folder on a network drive shared

drive of some sort. Uh and then on that folder you'll have a data owner and then you have access

control list of people who can access that folder and what permissions they have within it. But the problem is in in

private industry um the data owners might only be one or two people. So if

if if I had a folder that you wanted access to, I just have to email two people and they say, "Yeah, go for it and I'll I'll give you access." But when

it comes to government, that list is three or 400 people. Yeah. And the way government systems work is

they're very badly maintained as Doge uh recently discovered that none of them talk to each other. um the the databases

are a real bad state, it's surprising even blooming works to be honest. Yeah. So um when you have an administrator who

says, "Okay, you want these people or the public want access to this file. Let me look at the um the owner list. I'll

email them all and wait for their responses." But half of them might be dead and the system hasn't been updated,

you see. So the administrator might only get a 10% response from the list that

they send out and that isn't enough to open the file. So the older the project becomes or the the work becomes in that

file, the harder it is to get out. And uh that's why asking that's why all these hearings are a waste of time

because they can't get the information out. It's just not possible.

Yeah, I'm I'm beginning I'm beginning to agree with you. Um one final thing that

um people might want to know. Okay, Patrick Jackson. Um, there's this other

group of people or civilization that that's sharing our world and they have

this awesome tech and they're using it to shoot down UFOs

and natural stuff. Right. If there's a meteorite or a comet or something that's coming for us, they'll use it for that,

too. That's right. Right. So, it makes sense. So, would you put it as a They're defending the the planet

for basically selfishly for themselves or are they protecting us?

Um, it's it's more like they protect themselves and we're in the middle because we play a role as I said, we

play a role in the defense network. Um, we are the third line of defense. We are the evolved primates that are good at

killing things. I mean, if you look at the if you look at us as a whole like a global population,

what's the most common skill set that we all share regardless of skill of of our

intelligence levels, right? We're all good at hitting stuff, of course, chain and able, brother,

right? It's it's all it's all nothing ever changes. Uh, we

So that's that that's kind of like bread in us. That's what we're for. Um,

and so we are the third line of defense and that's in in a way the masters don't talk to to the to the guards which is

why I think you've got this wall of silence coming from government as well. Right. So so you would imagine this

other group is probably smaller both physically and in number

and kind of need help. Uh if something were to happen

they would need Yeah. They're probably much smaller, much much more um skinnier, smaller, but just just

smarter. Yeah. Uh and then you because you just said it, I wasn't going to ask, but since you

just said, uh how exactly are they influencing government or what you said banks to

financial institutions? How would how would that be happening? Well, it wouldn't surprise me if if um if they

had some sort of input to religious and the banking finance world. Oh, right. Religious. Yeah.

Yeah. It wouldn't surprise you. Well, they'd have to have people in the in the actual

like staff, probably hire members of staff, if not managers or bosses or so

forth. And they probably look just like us, just just with much much higher intelligence. Um, and that's how that

that's how they're put in those positions. Uh, like they actually look or they're

wearing a suit or they're they're No, I think I think they probably just look like us. Some of them anyway. Not not all of them, but

Okay. Um, I would say that the the ones the ones that uh it wouldn't surprise me. I

mean, I can't prove it, but it wouldn't surprise me if they had if they had a grip on um religion and uh the financial

um inner workings of the financial system. Let's leave it there. Patrick Jackson,

uh man, it's been a completely fascinating conversation. Uh I look forward to speaking with you again and

to telling folks about your book. I'm going to leave that review on Amazon. I think it's completely worth everyone's

time uh to read and absorb it and who it's it's a right now. It's a right now

topic. It really is. It really is. It's really important. So, thank you, man.

And uh anytime just give me a call. All right. No worries. Been great. Thank you very

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